Animals and Me.

When I was a boy I was besotted by animals. All we had by way of pets were my Dad’s goldfish and my white mouse. I devoured animal programs on television – Peter Scott’s Look, Johny Morris’s Animal Magic, On Safari with Armand and Michaela Dennis, Zoo Time with Desmond Morris, David Attenborough’s Zoo Quest and The Undersea World of Jacques Cousteau. I also collected Brooke Bond Tea cards – from British Wildlife, through Tropical Birds to Wildlife in Danger. I bought a copy of the Observers Book of Birds and started birdwatching. When I was eleven, we moved to a house in the country. Suddenly, there were chickens, pigeons, a dog, a rabbit – and even a pony. I was in animal heaven.

I have since changed my mind entirely. Animals and nature are not at all how I thought they were. I have become disillusioned. I blame my disillusion on David Attenborough and the BBC.

I have been watching Attenborough and the BBC Wildlife Unit’s amazing offerings all my life. At first I was captivated, delighted, enthralled. I marvelled at the wonders of the natural world – birds of paradise, otters, Madagascan lemurs, whales. Even more so when things switched from black and white to colour. But now I find the reality of animal existence unconscionable. My moral conscience is outraged. In fact I am depressed by the futility of it all – the competition, the constant struggle, the fear, the suffering, the death. I have grown up and beyond sentimental, anthropomorphic projection. I have woken up and smelt the dreadful, animal reality.

There is the obvious horrid relation of predators on prey – of leopard seals on penguins as they are forced to launch themselves into the sea to find food; of clever orca on seals stranded on ice flows or drowning whale calves; of racer snakes pouring after young marine iguanas; or gulls swooping down to help themselves to newly hatched turtles dashing for the sea; of a crow snatching a duckling from the line as the mother leads them down to the water, or snatched by a pike from beneath. This is the reality we have been made to face – increasingly. The worse it gets, the more it makes for good television. Unfortunately, it’s also true, so there’s no arguing.

Then there’s Penguins in the Antarctic. ‘Mother’ nature has obliged Emperor penguins to live and reproduce in what must be the most inhospitable environment on earth. They huddle against the winter storms for months together, each carrying their precious single egg on their frozen feet – without food, living off their own

bodies.

What dismays me still more is the absurd, hormone-driven competition between male mammals. Ungulates especially – deer, cattle, wild horses, but also elephant seals, walruses and hippopotami. Few mammals seem immune to this particular competition. The younger stag challenges the stag in charge. The stag in charge is driven to run up and down and around his herd and to drive off the intruder. (The female herd simply observe, and carry on grazing). The older stag is eventually defeated, displaced, and goes off to end his days in wounded isolation and decline.

When a new male lion takes over the pride he kills all the cubs. Domestic cats do the same. Even bottlenose dolphins do it.

All this is, of course, just biological machinery, running its repeated course, with no higher purpose or end in view or intended.

We human beings have evolved beyond these things.

We oppress each other deliberately :

Social media, hate, abuse.

Competition, greed, control.

War, genocide, holocaust. (Gaza, Sudan, Myanma, Ukraine . . . )[1]

Egos.

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  1. Please up-date as appropriate.

W G Arnold (Grandad ) 1900-1985 – Autobiography

Grandad – the lost autobiography.

Sometime in the mid 1970s my Grandad – William George Arnold – wrote his autobiography for me in two tiny notebooks. I have kept them in my archives for decades. I finally decided it was time to type them up and post them on my website, if only for other family members to read.

I cannot find them. They have disappeared. Vanished. Gone.

I have turned out the archives, I have emptied my office cupboards and my desk drawers, I have searched through my bookshelves – as well as behind them. Nothing. I have asked around the family – Did I lend them to anyone ? No.

I have now had to accept that they are gone, that I have – somehow – lost these precious records – lost my Grandad’s life.

I must save what I can. This is my attempt to recall and record what I remember of what he wrote.

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He began by saying that he was writing this autobiography because he felt that his grandson might have some journalistic leanings. I think he also enjoyed – in his 70s – the opportunity to recall his past, his adventures and his family.

He was born in 1900 in Beckenham, Kent. His father, Albert Edward Arnold, was a builder’s labourer and his mother, Rosina Aylin, had almost certainly been a housemaid before her marriage, as was customary for most young girls at this time. They had seven children, Grandad being the second. Although he was christened William he was always known by his second name, George. The family were not well off. Like others of their position, they lived in rented rooms. They had to move more than once just ahead of the arrival of the bailiffs. As a boy, Grandad had on one occasion been very ill. His mother sat up with him during the night and in her distress accidently gave him a dose of alcohol – gin perhaps – instead of his medicine. This is what saved him he claimed.

In 1917/18 Grandad lied about his age and was about to join the Royal Flying Corps. To his great disappointment, the war ended and his services were no longer required.

Grandad’s working life was spent entirely with motor vehicles – cars, vans and lorries. One of his early jobs was driving the delivery van for a baker’s firm in Purley, a few miles from Beckenham. It was here that he met my Grandma, Louie Ada Hosier. He fell in love with her voice. She was working in the accounts office and he somehow overheard her speaking before he actually saw her. They were married in 1925 in Chipstead Valley, Coulsdon, where my Grandma’s family lived.

Grandad worked for many years as chauffeur to a wealthy journalist, Mr Hartley Aspden, CBE. Granddad seems to have been much appreciated by Mr Aspden and his family. He kept up with Miss Kathleen, a daughter of the house, into his retirement and I believe it was she who helped Grandad purchase a private car hire business in the 1950s, Harmer Hire Cars, based at Smitham Station in Coulsdon. It may also have been during his time as a chauffeur that Grandad bought the family’s first house, in Manor Way, Woodmansterne.

Grandad also went to war. Having been too young for the First World War he was now too old to be called up for the Second. Therefore, in 1944 or thereabouts, he volunteered – not wishing to miss the chance of adventure yet again. He joined the army as a lorry driver and carried supplies to the allied forces following D-day and the re-occupation of France, Germany and Scandinavia. (I gather that this unnecessary disappearance at a time of general wartime hardship for the family was not entirely welcomed. He did not mention this in his writings).

The missing note books contain the details of the route his unit took and the villages and towns they visited or passed through. I particularly regret that I cannot now reconstruct his great adventure and relate it to the history in which he enjoyed – it seems – a small part. The only tales I recall is that he drove his lorry across a Norwegian Fiord on the hull of an up-turned, half sunk ship – and he witnessed the aurora borealis. He later received an official thank you certificate for his contribution to the liberation of Norway from King Haakon VII, which I have in my archives.

The car hire business did not go so well and after a few years he sold it and became a taxi driver based at a rank in Coulsdon. He and Grandma had also moved to a new house on Hartley Hill in Purley. I remember his black Austen taxi, with its open luggage compartment beside the driver’s seat (in which he once let me ride) and fold-down seats in the back. We used to go to the south coast in it for the day. I would get car sick. Later he replaced it with the then new design of London taxi.

Grandad had always had access to cars and would take his family on holiday to the West Country and elsewhere in Britain both before and after the war. In 1965 he bought a black and white Triumph Herald which he kept on the road until he finally gave up driving in the 1980s. By this time Granddad and Grandma had retired to Westergate, just north of Bognor – one of the sea-side towns we visited in his taxi when I was a child.

Grandad died in 1985, when I was living in India.

I had already said goodbye to him before I left.

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Having written the above – and after some time – I inadvertently found Grandad’s original notebooks ‘filed’ in some completely random place in my archive. I was overjoyed ! I typed them up a once and now here they are below.

What strikes me most about Grandad’s autobiography is how appalling the situation of his family was in his childhood, and how far he had come by the time I knew him. Of course this is a tale that could be told of many such families and individuals over this period. It was a time of great social and economic change. It’s a pity it took two World Wars to make the change. I am also struck by the fact that when he was born, the infernal combustion engine – with which he was involved for most of his life – and the aeroplane, had only recently been invented. By the time he left us, persons had landed on the moon and you could get from London to New York by Concorde in three hours. Well, some folk could.

William George Arnold (1900 – 1985) – Autobiography.


I do not anticipate that anyone other than my grandson Kevan will be interested in the following chronicle of my 70 years. Kevan thinks the that I have had an interesting life though I myself cannot lay claim to any great achievements or lay claim to any virtue that won a place to my credit. However, as I believe that he has some leanings towards journalism I will try to humour him, at least until I get tired, and leave it to him to weave my scribble and mistakes into a story, though what use he can make of it I can’t imagine. My part of the work will be notable for misspelling and incorrect punctuation etc., But Kevan of course with his first-class intellect will be able to remedy my errors.

I was born on June 12, 1900, the second son, or so I’m told, I have no recollection of the event. Times were hard for ordinary working people in those days, work was scarce and money more so. We lived in Penge, now it is part of London, and occupied the upper floor of a house in Rayleigh Road. Nothing much happened until I went to school at Alexandra Road. At this school we had a very severe head- mistress who was very fond of wielding the cane and I always went in mortal fear of her. On our way to school we usually saw a man delivering milk from a float. This was a three wheeled Barrow with a churn standing on it and a tap fitted so that the milk-man could fill his large can and carry it to each house where he would dip in his measuring can and pour into the customer’s jug. I was fascinated by this tap and one day I turned it on and ran away, leaving the milk flowing over the road. The next day I was scared to pass the milk float in case the man caught me, but I could not get to school without passing and so I hung back fearful and crying because I was getting late. Who should come along but the ogre our headmistress who wanted to know if what the trouble was. I had to tell her the truth, I can’t remember what she said to me, I believe she spoke to the milk-man and made my peace, afterwards escorting me to school – and I did not get a whacking.

It was at school that it was discovered that my sight was defective and this necessitated a weekly journey to the royal eye hospital, Elephant and Castle, for treatment. I found these excursions were interesting, though the hospital part was boring. We travelled on the tram-cars pulled by horses. Usually a pair of horses was sufficient as the rails made the going easy. It was all horse traffic in those days and the Elephant was a very busy junction, as indeed it is today, only more so. On these expeditions a few coppers would provide us with a basin of soup or a slice of and bread and dripping at one of the many coffee shops. The public houses seemed to be open all day and were the cause of much distress and broken homes as men and women took their hard-earned money to the brewers and sought to drown their sorrows in intoxicating liquor, causing them to forget for a while the hardship of life.

At home things began to go wrong, though as a child I did not know why. At first we missed the sweets we usually had given to us on Sunday. Then it was lack of food. I can remember as a child clinging to my mother’s skirts and crying for food while she, poor dear, cried because she had nothing to give us. On occasions like this, which seemed to become more and more frequent, my mother took us to an aunt or to our grandmother’s, dear old soul, and they filled our bellies. Both grandma and grandad seemed very old to us then, they were a dear old couple and were always very kind to us children They lived to a good old age and I have only very happy memories of them.

Christmas was always a wonderful time at my grandparents. They had a three-storey house at Beckenham. Two of their married children occupied rooms in this house and two of my aunt’s, who were not married, lived there as well. I remember the huge joint turning on a spit in front of the open fire, the cured hams hanging in odd corners and the barrel of ale. This was a beverage more in use than tea in those days but is a custom now died out.

Of after a while we moved from Penge to a flat in Beckenham. This was necessary as the family seemed to be growing and outstripping the accommodation. Our rent due at this abode was more than we could afford, 12 shillings a week I believe, and my mother found it necessary to seek employment. She went to work at a laundry from nine o’clock in the morning to nine at night. She received three shillings. My father, if he was lucky enough to have work, [was] paid at the most eight pence an hour. He was a very good workman and a strong trade unionist. I think now, when I look back, that he became discouraged with the battle to earn a living, he took to drink and at times he brought no money home to feed his constantly increasing family, thus creating the very heavy burden for my mother. We had to give up the flat of course and seek cheaper accommodation, but before we go on I must relate one little incident.

A railway went behind our house and we could climb the fence onto it. This we did one day and after placing some bricks on the rail waited for the train to come along and crash. Imagine our disappointment when the train simply swept the line clear of our obstructions.

Our next address took us a bit nearer to our grandma’s and from this time we seemed to be constantly on the move from one house to another. We never moved very far and mostly at night to avoid the landlord as we were apparently well in his debt. Things seemed to go from bad to worse, one or another of the family would be ill. I remember when we only had one of ? ? Eldest sister was in bed with diphtheria and the rest of us had measles together. We all managed to survive. Despite the hardships of life, I don’t think we children worried an awful lot. We were born to be poor and to be hungry. On the school holidays we ran about with bare feet, searching refuse heaps for anything we could sell to the rag and bone merchant for a few coppers, always scheming to get food by any means, honest or not.

If I never did any good at school, had I been well fed and clothed I could have done as well as anyone. I sat at my desk dreaming of lovely jam rolls and a tap flowing with milk. Today the children have milk at school. My mother was always receiving bills from the local tradesmen for goods – food of course – that we had obtained by pledging her credit. The shop got wise to us before long and my mother ceased to receive bills, while we remained hungry. I remember one occasion when us boys decided that the one and only chicken belonging to the man next door must die to provide us with a meal. How we were to prepare and cook this bird we never stopped to consider. We caught the chicken, stuffed it down the lavatory pan had pulled the chain, hoping to drown it. That chicken fought for its life and all we were left with were a few feathers. Very soon afterwards the owner of that chicken committed suicide but I don’t think we were the cause of that. We encountered death on another occasion when a man was found lying dead in a disused brick field nearby. When we arrived, a policeman had placed a handkerchief over the man’s face but we could see the revolver he had used in his hand.

Shops remained open all hours in those days and I remember we boys sitting as quiet as mice waiting for my mother to return home with her few shillings. Meanwhile father puffed steadily at his old vile-smelling clay pipe, filling the room with tobacco smoke. When mother came in we would be sent to the shops to buy the necessities of life and I remember being so dopey with sleep when I reached the shop I failed to remember what I was supposed to buy. One way of raising money for those days was to take anything of value to the pawnshop or Uncle Charlies’, as he was commonly called. There the article would be pledged for a fraction of its real value and redeemed by paying exorbitant interest. Failure to redeem left the pawnbroker free to sell the goods at a profit – altogether a good business for the pawnbroker but now practically a non-existent profession.

I was nearly 11 years of age when I went down with sunstroke and pneumonia and I can remember my father carrying me upstairs to bed where I remained between life and death for six weeks. I’d lost completely the power of speech and as I recovered I had the utmost difficulty in making known my wants. I had my 11th birthday in bed and King George the fifth was crowned as I lay ill. Prayers for my recovery was said in the local churches and were answered in a peculiar manner. The Doctor had just warned my mother that I had only a few hours to live. In an effort to do all she could to avoid this catastrophe she poured a generous dose of – as she thought -medicine down my throat. She had picked up the wrong bottle and given me methylated spirit. Actually, this revived me so that I struggled and gasped and the crisis was safely past. I was a weakling for months after, being wheeled about in a bath chair. Eventually someone from the church arranged for me to go to a convalescent home at Clacton-on- Sea where I stayed for two weeks, rather sick all the time.

I returned home to more trouble. The family had been turned out of the house on account of rent arrears. My mother and family had been taken to the work house, my father had been tramping the country looking for work and had returned to learn of the family’s misfortune. Somehow he obtained a one room and brought the family home to it and there I joined them. Some while afterwards we were able to move to a house in Kimberley road Beckenham and things seemed a bit better.

Time passed and I got a little job for Saturday mornings, helping the gardener at a house in the more elite part of the Beckenham. I was paid sixpence and was given a meal consisting chiefly of any leftovers. My employer’s name was Mrs. Attenborough. She was a deed or of the women’s meeting that mother sometimes attended at Elm road Baptist church. She had visited us during my illness and was the lady responsible for my convalescence. As I approached school leaving-age she tried to discover what employment I would like to take up, but I hadn’t any ideas. Her family owned various pawnbrokers and jewellers shops in London and it was suggested that I entered one of these as an apprentice. I left school just before I was 14 and took up my first full-time post at a pawn-brokers in Southwark, a poor district. It lived in, was given my food and two and sixpence a week. I shared a room with two assistants older than myself who played upon my innocence to tell me all sorts of yarns and encouraged me to run away. During that week I learned about pawnbroking from the inside. Long before we were ready to open up the crowd of frowsy women would be banging at the door. It was my job to unbar the door and let them in, I was almost floored by the rush. That was the beginning of the week. All day long I would be clambering up and down racks storing the pledges away. At the week end it was the same job in reverse, finding each parcel that was redeemed. It was a gloomy shop with the store rooms above. I felt stifled. Sunday came and I got up early, pursed my few things, crept downstairs with my heart in my mouth, unbarred and unbolted the heavy door and fled. It was years later that I owned up to Mrs. Attenborough that the other lads were the principal cause of my flight. Now I was out of work after only one week and so was my father. However, this didn’t last long. I secured a post at a lovely old country house called Whitmore in Beckenham. I had to spend some time in the house shoes, Coles, windows, knives etc. And the rest of the day in the garden there are three men were employed. I was given breakfast and tea and two and sixpence a week. I was quite happy here my employer was an importer in the city, tea I believe. Those were the days of silk toppers and frock coats as everyday business wear. Beckenham was still only a quaint little village with a twisting high street and wooden shops. The surroundings were mainly large estates tenanted by wealthy people employing large staffs of servants. Five servants were employed at Whitmore’s. Mr. Ashton was my employer’s name. They were self-supporting in all garden produce and had their own farm with cows, pigs, chickens etc. It was here that I discovered a leaning towards mechanics. They had a heavy-duty Ransoms motor mower and this I found very interesting, especially when the under gardener, Will Thrainer, let me drive it occasionally. We all became a very good friend though he was much older. He was a Christian worker and his influence was good for me, he helped me in many ways.

All through my schooldays we had been taught to regard a war with Germany as inevitable, this despite the fact that our own royal family were of Teutonic descent and were related to Kaiser Wilhelm. In Nineteen-fourteen England was the richest and most powerful nation in the world, ¼ world’s surface came under British rule. Empire J May 24 was a weird letter day celebrated by the schools from all around marching to the Beckenham recreation ground, each pupil wearing a silken sash to distinguish them from other schools, each school had a different colour. At the recreation ground we formed up like a battalion of troops and in Unison sign patriotic songs, afterwards a march past the Union Jack and then the rest of the day off organised sports and a fireworks display at night. I remember the last Empire-Day, scorching hot and first aid people dishing out lemon and barley water to those overcome the heat. That was the last time that such celebrations were carried out. On August 4 war on Germany was declared. A great wave of patriotism swept the country. Lord Kitchener called for volunteers and there was no lack of response. Everyone thought the war would be over in three months. How mistaken day we were. My employer sent his two cars back to the makers to be taken care of and persuaded his chauffeur to enlist in the motor transport promising to credit his wages while he was serving in the forces. Whether he repented of this I do not know. Early in 1915 my father joined the horse transport o the Army Services Corps (In the Second World wat this was altered to Royal Army Services Corps). He was only in England a few weeks before being sent to the far east where he remained for five years, afterwards being invalided home. I think he was a nuisance to the authorities whilst in England because most weekends he came on leave and every Thursday a military escort called to take him back. The war dragged on and I began to be restless. I felt I should make a move so I left to take on a job as gardener’s boy at ten shillings a week and my tea. My employer this time was Mr Perkins, a large timber merchant who probably made a fortune from the war. At this place they had a Napier Landaulette and a chauffeur who further fostered my interest in things mechanical. I remember that car with its brass lamps and steel studded tyres. Eventually the chauffeur enlisted and I bought his bicycle for thirty shillings, quite a nice machine. After some months her, the gardener left to take up war work and I felt it was time I moved as well and so I secured a job at a small metal foundry. I forget what I was paid but I found the work interesting. The place was primitive, being a new venture and almost a back yard affair. I began to hear of the large earnings to be obtained at the Arsenal in Woolwich and so made application for a job there. I had an interview at the local labour exchange and was told to present myself at Woolwich Arsenal some time on a certain day. Before keeping the appointment I thought I would try a little blackmail on my present employers. I warned them of my proposed move to the Arsenal but intimated I would I would continue to work for them if they would increase my wages. Imagine my consternation when I was told politely that my conditions were unacceptable and they would dispense with my services.

Now I had been warned that to be late for the appointment at Woolwich would be fatal to my chances of being given employment there. Somehow or other I got delayed on the journey to Woolwich and arrived five minutes late so that was that and I was unemployed. Not for long though. The local Council needed men as most of the regulars had either enlisted or were on war-work. My elder brother by this time was in the forces. I lined up with others in the Council yard one morning while the foreman went along making his selection from the poor material present. I was told I could start as a dustman. I was a puny little chap, never fully recovered from my illness, and the work I was supposed to be able to do was to swing a heavy dustbin on to my shoulder, carry it out to the horse-drawn dust cart, mount a ladder at the side of this and expertly tip my bin of rubbish where it was supposed to go. Needless to say, I could not cope. My mate was having to do double the work. All I could manage was the horse, and this I enjoyed, feeling very proud as I handled the reins, though the horse did not need any guidance from me, it knew where to go alright. My next job was in the docks area of London, not far from Tower Bridge. I caught the two minutes past five a.m. train to London Bridge and then a tram along Tooly Street to arrive at the factory in time to start work at six o’clock. With a short break for meals I worked to nine for five days and to one o’clock on Saturday. I began my work in the warehouse where processed cereals were received via an elevator and chute from the mill and bagged up for loading onto waggons and despatch. Mainly food for the army stores. I was made a member of a gang on a printing machine, printing the firms’ name Uveco Cereals and a trade mark. The work turned out by the charge-hand on this was terrible, all smears and smudges. Eventually he left and I was given the task. I was so interested in the machine that I had excellent results and the foreman was very pleased and would have like me stay on that work. I had other ideas, separated from the warehouse by a narrow roadway was the mill, eight floors of machinery to be explored. Apparently the mill was disliked by the majority because of the heat and dust from the cereals and so I asked for a transfer. Naturally the warehouse foreman did not want to lose a good printer and was reluctant to let me go. However, I was determined and decided my printing had better deteriorate, which it quickly did. When the foreman realised that I had lost interest he let me go.

I now came under a Scotts foreman and it was decided that because of my evident interest I must learn every phase of the work, as eventually I did, I had better describe the process. First came the wharf on the river side, from here every activity on the Thames could be observed, with the frequent opening and closing of Tower Bridge to let ships pass under. Barges loaded with loose grain, wheat, maize etc. would be shunted by fussy little tugs to our wharf where the grain was loaded into sacks by piece workers and hoisted up and in by our electric lift or hoist and the sacks emptied into a hopper. From this hopper the grain, by means of travelling belts was passed through sieves to remove any thing foreign (all sorts of things) and then by elevators to silo bins eighty feet deep whence it was stored until the mill could deal with it. On the journey from the barge to the silo bins things could go wrong. A belt might come off stopping a conveyor or elevator with resulting confusion all along the bins. A careful watch had to be kept on everything. If the dockers had to stop unloading because of any machinery hold-up there was the dickens to pay. From the silo bins the grain travelled by conveyor bands and elevators to the mill when it was passed through heavy iron rollers, revolving at speed and making a frightful noise. Until I got used to the racket it was an unnerving experience to climb among the narrow plank galleries above the rollers to replace a belt or some other necessary task, or to work anywhere on that floor. After the grain had been crushed into flakes it was forwarded to the cooker floor where it would be steam treated and then to the driers where the moisture and dust were extracted and from here to the warehouse for sacking up and storing until required for despatch. At the age of sixteen I learned to control all this plant and my foreman never had to worry if he was late arriving I always started up all the machinery. Occasionally we stopped the mill for necessary maintenance and a rat hunt. Great was the slaughter on those occasions. One morning we arrived to find the area blocked by many fire engines. The adjoining biscuit factory (Spillers and Bakers) was on fire and our warehouse suffered damage from the Brigade hose pipes. However, they controlled the fire and then it was the task of cleaning and drying out before normal work could begin.

The War of course was still in progress and one night while in the darkened train, homeward bound, a terrific explosion shook the train and lit up the sky. A factory at Silvertown had gone up in fire and smoke. On a Saturday morning we had an air raid, the German planes followed the Thames to the docks and scattering bombs all around us. I stood on the fire escape near the top of our mill and had a grandstand view with no though of danger. It was a daring raid carried out in broad daylight and the first of the war.

(Before I go on with this reminiscence, I have just remembered that I have left out one of my jobs. From my dust cart I went to Muirheads, a large electrical firm mainly at that time engaged in the manufacture of wireless telegraphy for ships etc. I only stayed there about three months, giving up what might have developed into a wonderful career. Unfortunately, skylarking while working late one night got me into trouble and I was young and inexperienced and refused to be spoken to and so I left. It was from here that I went to the mill).

I stayed at the London job for about three months and enjoyed it every minute, though my mother insisted that I was killing myself I looked so pale and thin. I was not having nourishing food, mainly a bloater or bread and dripping from the local coffee shop and of course the long hours were not good for me as I was still not very strong. My reasons for leaving this job were quite different. I read an advertisement from the Royal Naval Air Service asking for volunteers prepared to fly in any type of aircraft or balloon and act as observers, ages 16 to 17. I made an application and went for an interview to Hotel Cecil on the Strand where I was directed to go to Wormwood Scrubs. Here I was to my great disappointment rejected on account of my deficient sight. This attempt to enlist caused me to be out of favour with the manager and foreman who were hoping I would accept exemption from service on the plea of essential war work. We had a few words about it and I left. Now I had to look for another job and when I saw an advertisement for a young man to learn to drive. I applied for and obtained the post. It was at Pelton Brothers [family grocers] at the Purley branch[1], now International Home Stores. Motoring was still in its infancy though on account of the war, developing fast. I had to learn to drive a model T type Ford van. No self-starter or windscreen in those days. My instructor was the shop manager, a poor teacher, but one who loved driving. I was slow learning because of his attitude but eventually I succeeded and felt at last I had the right job, fresh-air outdoor work delivering goods, a vocation entirely new and interesting. Since that day I have driven more motor vehicles than I can remember. During my service here I joined a section of volunteer motor transport, I was issued with a uniform and attended parades. What use we would have been in an emergency I have no idea. All we did was form fours. I drove the van and assisted in the shop, working very long hours and at Christmas time very often missed the last tram and had to walk back to Beckenham. However, I was really happy until early May 1918 I caught a bad dose of influenza. I had to stay away from work about a month. One day, feeling better, I went a short distance to see a friend. While I was away the manager called and would not believe my Mother when she told him this was my first outing since I had been taken ill. He had been told lies by my assistant who was assiduous to take on my job and had been informed by this chap that he had seen me about in Purley when all the time I was confined indoors. I was out of work again and although the truth emerged eventually it was too late to benefit me.

It was a difficult time to be unemployed as owing to the fact that I was approaching military age no one would give me employment. I tried to enlist, but on account of a new law recently passed they were not allowed to take me until I was eighteen. However, they did promise to forward my call-up papers by my birthday. This they did on the day. I had to report to Hounslow Depot where I spent one night. I was issued with kit and to satisfy the storeman’s sense of humour, or more likely because of his bad temper, I received a pair of size nine boots instead of sixes. The next morning in preparation for moving to our units we were divided and a one eyed and armed Sergeant-Major who shouted at me hardly able to walk in my size nines, that if I didn’t step out he would double me around the parade ground till I dropped. A very cheerful introduction to army life! Later that day in charge of an NCO we went by tube and train to Brockton camp, Stafford. In our new outfits of creased uniforms, without badge, we must have looked to the civilians absolute rookies, which of course we were, though I felt like a hero. We were at Brockton camp about four or five weeks, spent mainly square-bashing. We lived in huts and the food was not too bad, being cooked by members of the Women’s Army Auxiliary Force. I got my boots changed to size seven. One had to have a size larger than normal. Eventually we were drafted to Taverham Camp near Norwich where we lived under canvas. But before this move an epidemic of Spanish Flu swept the country and two third of the troops became casualties. All hospitals at Stafford and Cannock Chase became overcrowded. Huts were set aside for isolation and volunteers were requested to attend the sick. I was a volunteer and one day recovered consciousness to discover that I had nearly passed out myself. No medical aid was possible and I lay on my bed consisting of three planks until I recovered. [c. 48 hrs]

Arrived at Taverham we were allotted so many to a bell tent. I never thought we would find room to sleep but with all our feet to the centre pole we managed. We became stronger, more healthy-looking. The open-air life and physical training with regular if insufficient food was doing me a lot of good. We lost our pale complexions and assumed a healthy tan. At this camp training began in earnest. We did our field training, long route marches and fired our musketry and Lewis gun courses at both of which I excelled. In the autumn we moved to billets in Norwich from where we expected to be sent to France, but a recent act prohibited this until we had received our six months training. While at Norwich the armistice was signed. I remember we were at Norwich station unloading goods trucks when the news came. All was excitement and as we marched through the streets we received a great ovation though we had done nothing to win the war. After a short interval we were sent on leave, and then to France. We landed in Northern France and by goods trucks travelled through the battlefields of France and Belgium to Germany. Passing through Cologne and Bonn we arrived at Siegburg where we occupied a civil prison. Many of us were ill in this place, myself among them, but I never reported sick as I was scared of being accused of malingering. How I managed to soldier on I don’t know but somehow I did. Eventually we left the prison and were dispersed in small detachments in villages on the borders of the Saar [?]. Our unit went to a village named Weichied [?] and we occupied a derelict cottage sleeping on the floor. Life was better here. It turned out a glorious summer, very hot, and the surrounding countryside very lovely. I made friends of some of the Germans here and altogether was quite happy. We were employed on outpost duty enforcing the curfew and examining the credentials of travellers to and from the Saar area. All very farcical as none of us understood more than a few words of the language, though one could amuse themselves studying the women and the photographs on their pass. We stayed in Germany nine months until the Treaty of Versailles was signed and then returned to England using the same aids to travel as before (goods trucks) landing at Dover from Calais we entrained and travelled to Repton, Catterick Camp, Yorkshire.

My travels on the continent had been quite an experience. I had seen the battlefields or some of them and the devastation everywhere. I had seen how impoverished Germany had become as a result of the war and the effects of our naval blockade. I had visited Bonn and Cologne and see the former’s cathedral. I had travelled up the Rhine from Cologne to Coblenze [Koblenz ?] wher the Americans were the occupying troops. I had mounted guard in the Town Hall Square of Sieglung [Siegburg ?] with bands playing and much pomp and ceremony, the local populace as spectators. Now I was back in England, still a long way from home and looking forward to discharge. This was still some months away as quite rightly those who had born the brunt of the conflict were being released first. In the meantime a call came for two volunteers to go on a cooking course and believing that I should be sent South for this I made one, only to discover that we were to go to a school further North. We spent three weeks learning the culinary art and on returning to the unit was given the task of company cook. With one or two assistants I had to prepare meals for about three hundred men. The sergeant in charge of the cook-house was an ex-provost sergeant (Police) and he treated me as though I was a convict, nothing was right for him. One day the orderly officer in his presence asked me how I liked the cook house. I told him I hated it and the reason why. After that things were done better and I became personally content. By this time my father and elder brother had returned to civil life. My father wrote to me advising that I sign on as things were so bad. We were offered a stripe and fifty pounds to sign on for a further five years. Much had been said during the war about men returning to a land fit for heroes, instead they returned to chaos and mass unemployment. When I finally came home it was to find that my father was the only one employed. However, I had to wait for my discharge before I saw how bad things really were. On the day of my release an officer led a party of us to the station to catch the train. As we marched behind him we sang ‘A little child shall lead them’. Things improved in the building trade and my father was able to get jobs with him for my brothers, but he refused to take me contending that I was not strong enough.

I was unemployed for seventeen months, drawing a pittance from the labour exchange with which I had to pay something for my keep and try to re-fit myself with clothes so very necessary after my two years’ service. I managed about two weeks work for a greengrocer looking after his horses and assisting on a round, but I was not much use on this job and so it ended. My father relented at last and took me to work on some public works at Roehampton, making roads and laying down drains for a new housing estate. I will not forget the kindness of the foreman on that job who realising that I was trying but suffering did what he could to make things easier. The first day was agony. I got used to it though and worked for them for some months earning quite good money. In the end I left and went to work on the Beckenham Housing Scheme as a bricklayer’s labourer. I got on very well here and the general foreman wanted me to train as a bricklayer but I could not afford to drop down to apprentice rates. Eventually this job was finished and we all got the sack. My father had got a job widening a road at Edenbank and I became one of his gang, working on the road and when required doing Father’s office work. The last task I carried out was to stamp the men’s cards at the end of the job and then give myself the sack. We had now reached the parting of the ways. I was engaged to be married and I knew that I had to do something to get myself out of the building trade, otherwise I would be a labourer all my life.

I approached the Government for a training grant in motor engineering and this was granted, but the conditions attached made it impossible for any employer to take me on as he would have to guarantee my employment when the training finished. This was an impossible condition as no one could know until I had finished my training what aptitude I had for the work. So this door was closed. However, I was determined not to return to labouring in the building trade and eventually got a job with Olbys of Penge, Builders Merchants, driving a one-ton lorry. This was a rough job and poorly paid. Olby’s took full advantage of the condition of the labour market and set me impossible tasks. Such as unloading a heavy iron kitchen-range by myself and if I could not manage it telling me to stop someone in the street and give them threepence to help me. One day I lost my temper and threw caution to the winds. I told him what I thought of him and what he was. It took him two weeks before he gave me the sack and then assured me it was not because of what I had said to him. Again I was unemployed.

I got a job at a firm of contractors at Upper Norwood where I was engaged to drive another one-ton Ford. They also had two heavy lorries and a charabanc. I drove them all in time. They were the local contractors for the Royal Mail which they carried out with a horse-drawn vehicle. Everyone was becoming motor-minded and the Post Office were no exception. My firm had to supply a van instead of a horse and I became the Royal Mail driver. I stayed in this job until I saw an opportunity to improve my wages with a firm of dyers and cleaners. This firm was in its infancy beginning in a small way by renovating ladies and gents’ hats, afterwards expanding to take on the whole range of dying and cleaning. I stayed with this firm quite a while helping them over quite a few difficulties and once leaving them some of my savings to pay wages. In the end they turned into a public company and after disagreement with the Traveller I left. All the time I had been learning something and my knowledge of how the motor car functioned increased. As I had left before finding another job. I needed to find a stop-gap and this did not take long. I went as a van driver for a motor accessory firm, only a small business. They would have liked me to continue in their employ but the wages were not good enough. After a while I was engaged as a chauffeur–handyman by a retired journalist and held this post for fifteen years until the beginning of the Second World War. I had quite a bit to tolerate at this place. More and more responsibilities were heaped upon my shoulders while the unmarried daughters could be very demanding at times. Times were still very difficult and as I was now a married man, I had to control my natural independence. My employer had five daughters, two still at home and his two sons were killed in the First World War. Gradually he became more and more dependent on my abilities and when his wife died I took over his personal care and any secretarial work that was needed. He died in a nursing home a few months after the outbreak of the 2nd World War.

Great Britain declared war n Germany on September 3rd 1939. My people fled to Reigate where they thought they might be safer from the expected air raids. They returned after a while but not before I had arranged for a massive air-raid shelter in the garden. I left and joined the Auxiliary Fire Service but soon sickened of this as it was mainly staffed by scroungers who hoped to avoid military service. I left this and joined the recently formed Defence Volunteers, afterwards named the Home Guard, and left this to join the forces. But before my enlistment I spent a short while at an Air Ministry maintenance unit. Afterwards I secured employment in a local emergency factory where my natural aptitude for things mechanical gained me early recognition and I became the milling machine setter and operator carrying out work to very fine limits and grinding my own cutters – quite a skilled operation. I did not like the inside work and longed to be out in the fresh air. I succeeded in getting permission to join the forces and finally enlisted in the Royal Army Service Corps. This took me first of all to Chesterfield in Derbyshire where we did a month or so of square bashing and small arms training. All this I found easy benefitting from my previous army training in the 1914-18 war. Our next move was to Sheffield for driving and mechanical instruction. I quickly passed the driving test but had to retire to hospital for a hernia operation, afterwards to a convalescent home in Sheffield and then to Halifax for remedial exercises. With one week’s leave this had occupied three months of my service.

After returning to my unit I found all my pals had moved on and I was among strangers. I took a day off to get used to things. No one missed me. I then passed a trade test as a fitter and was sent to workshops in Sheffield. Signs and portents convinced me that the invasion of the continent was not far away and I was due for leave. It was expected that all leave would be stopped. I was lucky my leave was granted and my Sergeant-Major advised me to go that night. I went, arriving in London just before leave was cancelled and about half an hour before the military police received orders to turn anyone back to their units. I had fourteen days at home while others were being recalled to stations. On my return I applied for a field posting. This cannot be refused and although those in authority at my unit did their best to persuade me to stay, I persisted with my request. That unit never left England. I went to a holding [?] company and from there to Oundle in Northumberland where I arrived exhausted after travelling all day without food. There I joined 3 Company RASC just returned from the desert and 8th Army. It was Saturday night when I joined them and on the following Monday morning we were in convey en route for the South coast and Littlehampton, where we arrived after a couple of days. From here. After spending a week at Southwick bivouacked in a field close to Eisenhower’s headquarters. Half the company left for France while my party went to London and Tilbury Docks. I spent one night sleeping by the roadside under a tarpaulin while doodlebugs passed overhead. We boarded ship with our vehicles and lay off Southend for about a week, bored stiff. Finally we moved and at night hugging the English coast we crept through the Straits of Dover and fetched up South of the I.O.W. From there we sailed a mass of vessels to the French coast and transferring into landing barges we went ashore.

As this is not a war story I will simply say that we proceeded through Belgium and Holland to Hamburg in Germany. Before this happened I spent a weekend leave in Paris and afterwards went there on detachment for about six weeks. I finally was given a week’s leave and whilst at home the Armistice was concluded. I returned and learned that we were going to Norway and this country we soon embarked for, travelling on American tank [?] landing craft escorted by naval corvettes. We left the devastation of Hamburg and sailing up the Elber, crossed the Skagerrak and reached the coast of Norway. We proceeded through the fiords leaving detachments at Oslo, Bergen, Stavanger and Christiansands [Kristiansund ?] finally arriving at Trondheim which was to be Company HQ. It had been a marvellous trip with wonderful scenery.

It was June and the nights never got dark as we were so far north. Finally I was sent on detachment with three others and after five days and nights of cruising among the Lofoten Islands we reached Tromso, 300 miles north of the arctic circle. It was a wonderful experience here to see the sun shining day and night and this continued to the autumn when we were treated to wonderful displays of northern lights and marvellous coloured skies. Whilst here we took trips to the mainland across the ferry [?] and aquiring a boat with a powerful outboard engine did some boating around the islands. We sailed to where the battleship Turpitz lay upside down in ? Fiord, its guns and superstructure in the sea bed and the ship’s bottom above the surface. We climbed aboard and walked along the bottom of this great ship.

Pin on Ships[2]

Winter came with it snow and ice. We used [a] Chevrolet with four-wheel drive so could get about but the civilians used horse sleighs with bells tinkling, or pushchairs on runners which they used like scooters. We were due to return to Trondheim as all troops were to hand over the country to the Norwegians. But first of all we had to wait for a ship. Eventually we secured an old tramp steamer and this took us back. The ship was covered in ice everywhere and walking on the iron decks was dangerous. Soon after reaching Trondheim we boarded the SS Bamford for Leith in Scotland. We had a stormy passage and were two and a half days at sea. I was very sea-sick. On reaching Leith we entrained for Cardiff, S. Wales. I was detached to Newport and from there to the I.o.W. After several months I went to Guildford for my discharge. So ended that adventure.

Now I had the problem of finding work which I obtained as chauffeur to a rich waste-paper merchant. I did not enjoy working for him. He was fond of drink and kept me very late in town at night while he was enjoying himself. I had made application of a petrol ration in order to start a hire service and this was granted. I left the waste-paper merchant and with the assistance of a loan from my late employer’s daughter I bought my first car – afterwards several more. I secured the station rights at Coulsdon South station and through various ups and downs made progress and was able to repay the loan. I sold the business and using a taxi only made a good living until I retired in 1965 and here I am now 70 years young pleasing myself what I do.

PS I should have mentioned that in 1918 my service was with the Bedfordshire Regiment, afterwards named the Beds and Herts and was for nearly two years. In the RASC I served three years.

  1. [ This was where he met Louie Hosier who was working in the office. He first fell in love with her voice. Then he married her.]

  2. http://wikimapia.org/815956/German-Battleship-Tirpitz#/photo/46228

Curdridge Mapped – Ordnance Survey 6 inch map, 1868.

Curdridge Mapped – Ordnance Survey 6 inch map, 1868.

At last, Curdridge is given its correct name, rather than being labelled Curbridge as on earlier maps.

We can see immediately that the modern road layout is now in place – Reading Room Lane, Chapel Lane and the Southern end of Wangfield Lane have all been constructed since the OS 1810s-50s ‘Old Series’ map I wrote about earlier. What was a split track across part of the Common is now Outlands Lane, leaving a line of houses to the East marking where one of the tracks ran previously.

The current map is also later than the Curdridge Common Inclosure Map of 1856 that I wrote about earlier and we can see that what was the open Common has now been divided into a number of fields, much as they remain today.

St Peter’s Church on the map is the Chapel of Ease built in 1835. The present church was not built until 1887. The Plantation triangle is marked as a Recreation Ground, which indeed it was, created as part of the Inclosure. The present Reading Room Rec was not established until 1884. The present Cricketer’s pub was the Land of Promise and what looks like it might have been another pub, the Heart in Hand, was in fact the name of a farm, now the site of Curdridge Grange. A pond, which still exists, is marked beside the road.

Kitnocks house is at last labelled as such on this map whereas previously it had been called Curbridge House. Curdridge House is correctly located on the Bishops Waltham road, East of the Church. Fairthorn House – that is, Manor – is just off the map above but had now been built (in 1854). The estate entrance Lodge is marked. The original Fairthorn, a farm, is now named Fairthorn Grange, as it is still.

Interestingly, the Memorial Stone which is now at the Station is located on this map at what is now King’s Corner/Pinkmead Farm (labelled Botleyhill Farm on this map), whereas it was by the Station on the earlier ‘Old Series’ map. Was it moved and then moved back again for some reason ?

Unfortunately the map I have does not extend to Curbridge.

Kevan Bundell

Curdridge Mapped – Ordnance Survey 1810s-50s ‘Old Series’.

I wrote before about Thomas Milne’s Map of Hampshire of 1791, noting both the errors it contained and the familiar roads which were already there and those which weren’t. This 1 inch OS map has corrected most of the errors and shows more detail. It must have been last surveyed after 1840 because it shows the railway line and station which opened in that year. However, it is otherwise more or less the same as the OS map of 1831.

The one error it has in common with the older map is that it still names everything Curbridge. The name Curdridge is still nowhere to be seen. As before, the centre of the village is the Common, with a small cluster of buildings on what is now Church Lane, although no church is marked, even though the original Chapel of Ease was constructed in 1835. Otherwise, there are farms and other clusters on the lanes beyond the Common.


One cluster, to the South of the Common, is marked Curbridge House. This is where Kitnocks House now stands. Meanwhile, Curdridge House is nowadays a house on the Bishops Waltham road – probably marked by the single building to the North East of the churchless cluster. Does anyone know how or when the names changed ?

Most interestingly, there is a new road on the map – the Turnpike Road which runs from the top of the Common towards Harfield and beyond. This is the Bishops Waltham Road and provided a more direct route than having to go by Curdridge Lane via Waltham Chase. Also of note, a pond is marked on both sides of the road. This would have been used to provide drinking water for horses and to wash down both horses and carts. This, of course, is Cricketer’s Pond.

Reading Room Lane, Chapel Lane and the Southern end of Wangfield (Wamfield on the map) are yet to be constructed. Fairthorn on the map is what is now Fairthorne Grange – Fairthorne Manor was not built until 1854. Outlands Lane splits into two across the Common, and the Eastern track is still evidenced by the line of houses set back from the modern Lane – as, for example, in the case of Kitnocks Farm house.

The memorial stone at the station is marked. This is the stone ‘Erected to Perpetuate a Most Cruel Murder Commited on the Body of Thomas Webb a Poor Inhabitant of Swanmore on the 11th of February 1800’ which I wrote about some time ago. (Search: Curdridge local history).

Kevan Bundell

Curdridge mapped – Milne’s Hampshire, 1791.

I wrote before about the Curdridge Common Inclosure Map of 1856. That set me thinking that it might be interesting to look at other old maps of Curdridge to see what changes there have been.

The first map I found with any useful detail was Thomas Milne’s Map of Hampshire of 1791, surveyed at roughly one inch to the mile. (The coloured bands dissecting the map into three are parish boundaries).

The first thing I noticed was that Curdridge is nowhere to be seen and Curdridge Common is instead attributed to Curbridge. Furthermore, Shawford’s Lake stream and the River Cur have been merged so that there’s only one tributary flowing into the Hamble on the map rather than the actual two. There are also two Fairthorn’s on the map – and neither of them are in the right place. At that time there was only Fairthorne Farm on the way to Curbidge.

However, those errors aside, if we can rely on the roads, we can see that the Botley to Kings Corner/Pinkmead road splits as now, one road down to Curbridge and beyond and the other to the top of Kitnocks Hill and on the way to Shedfield. The road which goes North-East from the top of Kitnocks Hill, along the edge of the Common until it meets another such road coming in from the left, must be what is now Lockhams Road. The road coming in from the left and the road carrying on to the top-right edge of the map is Curdridge Lane. The thing to notice is that there was no Bishops Waltham road at this time. Curdridge Lane, via Waltham Chase, was the only way to go. This was undoubtedly because Curdridge Lane skirts the boundary to the Bishop’s Deer Park – the Park Lug, unlike the later road, which runs more directly to Bishops Waltham by going straight through the Lug and across the Park. Calcot lane, Netherhill and Wangfield Lane seem to be present, but Durley Mill is not quite where it should be. It seems to me there may have been some confusion between Wangfield Lane and the end of Blind Lane/Breech Hill (off Calcot Lane).

Meanwhile, in the centre of the map, is Curdridge Common – and a couple of tracks across it. There seem to be some houses along its Northern edge and perhaps some down a misplaced Outlands Lane. There is certainly a cluster of buildings in Curbridge. Perhaps that cluster explains the lack of a Curdridge on the map. Perhaps at that time Curbridge was a more noticeable settlement – at the crossing of the River Cur – while Curdridge was just a scattering of dwellings around the edge of the wild and uncultivated Common.

Kevan Bundell

The Inclosure of Curdridge Common, 1856.

Ordnance Survey maps call the fields between Chapel Lane and the Reading Room Rec Curdridge Common. I have never heard anyone use this name for these fields, but they are indeed part of what was Curdridge Common, which extended from Lockhams Road to the top of Station Hill, bounded, more or less, by the Bishops Waltham and Shedfield roads.

Some years ago, Dennis Stokes of the Botley and Curdridge Local History Society and I were sorting through the contents of the Reading Rooms safe when we came upon a copy of the Curdridge Common Inclosure Map 1856. It was rolled up in a long metal map case and measured about 3 by 5 feet. Attached to the map were pages listing the plots the Common was divided into and to whom they were given, sold or otherwise allocated. We deposited it, along with much else, at the Hampshire Records Office in Winchester.

Most villages had a common where locals could, for example, graze their family cow or their geese and collect fallen wood and furze for their fire. The common could make an important contribution to the livelihood of the poor. How important Curdridge Common was to anyone in 1856 – a relatively late date for inclosure – I don’t know. (Inclosure, by the way, is the legal term for the enclosure of common or ‘waste’ land).

Recently, I re-visited the Records Office to take a proper look at the Map and its attachments. I looked first for my property, at the bottom of Outlands Lane, but it was beyond the bounds of the map. However, the plot where Camper House now stands, about a third of way down the lane, was on the map and was listed as being owned by William Camper – who also built my house. He was one half of the famous yacht-building firm of Camper and Nicholson of Gosport.

Here are some of my other findings :

The Reading Rooms and Rec field went to ‘John Gatery’ of South Stoneham. In other words, it did not become a public space in 1856, and indeed the Reading Room Charity was only formed in 1884 when the land was bought for £945 by Sir Henry Jenkins of Botley and the Burrells of Fairthorne Manor for the purpose of providing the Reading Room and the Rec.

The Allotments/Rec field on the Bishops Waltham road went to the Churchwardens, who were responsible for the running and up-keep of the Parish Church. This would have been the Chapel of Ease, built in 1835. The present St Peter’s was not built until 1887, when the Chapel was demolished.

The Glebe field – beside the Church car park – went to the Churchwardens and to the Overseers of the Poor to support the National School, that is, the primary school, built in 1839. The Overseers – often the same people as the Churchwardens – were traditionally responsible for organising poor relief as part of the Poor Law system.

The triangle of land now between the Plantation and the Bishops Waltham road went to the Church Wardens for ‘exercise and recreation.’ This was the site of the original village cricket pitch – and the cottage beside the pond – Cricketer’s Pond -was the original Cricketer’s Pub.

The triangle of land between the B3051 and the A334 on the Botley side of the allotments/rec, plus the land on which Blenheim Cottage now sits at the top of Station Hill, went to the ‘Incumbent’, that is, to the Vicar, as a means of raising income, probably through renting the land out.

Meanwhile, Plot 28, which appears in the list of allocations but I couldn’t find on the Map, went to the Bishop of Winchester as ‘recompense for land lost’.

The Map also shows three ponds in the village. One is Cricketer’s Pond on the Bishops Waltham road, another is the pond now within the curtilage of Curdridge Grange – apparently known as Heart in Hand farm in 1856 – on Curdridge Lane. The third has vanished. It was located at ‘Wangfield Green’, that is, opposite Lower Wangfield Farm, near Frogmill Track on Wangfield Lane.

Kitcocks House, at the top of Kitnocks Hill, is named on the Map as Curdridge House, as it is on the OS map of 1868. Curdridge House is now the name of a fine old building on the Bishops Waltham road. I wonder if anyone knows how and why the name moved ?

Interestingly, despite the enclosure, a History of the County of Hampshire of 1908 reports that at that time ‘Curdridge Common’ consists of a few fields with patches of furze and heath, sloping up from the road opposite the church’. These fields are now thoroughly cultivated, but I wonder if remnants of the Common may not still exist. The green-winged orchids in the Glebe Field (there are some in the Rec too when they’re not mown), and the few furze/gorse bushes on Reading Room Lane could be such remnants. A botanist friend from the Wildlife Trust noticed a tiny, dwarfed heather plant in among the grass as we sat on the mowed lawn at Beechcroft. He could hardly contain his excitement at the possibility that this was also a remnant from the Common.

Does anyone else know of any possible remnants ?

Kevan Bundell
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The Matrix and me.

I saw The Matrix when it was first released. I was flying back to LHR on an overnight BA flight and it was one of that month’s newly released movies. Sci-fi – always my favourite – but different. Fast, original and, of course, visually stunning. The best since Bladerunner.

I was especially impressed by the excellent, unexpected ending:

Neo has survived, triumphed even, when suddenly the action shifts to a quite new location. Its a college classroom or gym. People are sat in a circle. They are taking their head-sets off. There are comments about what a great game it was. A couple of the players reach down to the hold-all bags under their chairs. They take out machine guns and proceed to shoot the rest of the circle. We are still in the Matrix !

Hey, you say, that’s not how it ends! It ends with Neo in a phone box wondering what he’ll do next and then doing a Superman – shooting off in to the sky.

You are correct. That is indeed how the film ends and I can find no evidence at all that the ending I saw ever existed.

So where the devil did it come from ? The usual accusation when I tell the tale is that I dreamt it. Which is quite possible. It was an overnight flight . . . But it’s an amazingly good dramatic twist-of-an-ending to make up while I’m asleep . . .

Alternatively, what if you found you wanted to make more Matrix movies ? Was this an original Director’s ending which the studio immediately cut and replaced with the phone box so that they could make Matrix 2 ?

Possibly. But I can find no evidence.

What I do notice, however, is that this is not the only occasion when I have experienced something which I clearly remember or knew to be the case in the past suddenly no longer being true in the present. These are usually quite minor items and easily dismissed as miss-rememberings, misunderstandings, mistakes. You have to be alert even to notice them, and even more so to remember them. I am alert and I do sometimes notice them. I point them out to my family when they occur. However, I cannot now remember them. I can give no examples. I am unable to. There are glitches in reality, but they escape us. This one, The Matrix’s ending, is the exception. I did not forget it.

So what are we to make of it all ? There is the obvious possibility that we exist within a ‘Matrix’. Just like the movie. The glitches in reality are up-dates, or corrections to the code.

This is not as ridiculous an idea as it might seem. Faced with the intractable absurdities of quantum weirdness, it has been suggested, as a logical possibility, that the existence of both ourselves and our world can reasonably be explained by the notion that we are living in a computer simulation created by a higher intelligence. Indeed, that we may be simulations ourselves . . .

How are we to know ? Is there any way of telling ? Perhaps there is not. But I invite you to be alert, to notice and to try to remember. The evidence is out there. We must strive to hold on to it, to know reality.

Unless it’s better not to notice, and if you do, then to forget . . .

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NOTE : This is a true story, as you may have gathered. Apart from this Matrix incident, the other major incident I do remember is when, after many years of travelling on the London Underground, Cocksfooters – at the top end of the Piccadilly Line – suddenly became Cockfosters. Reality changed. And before that, Ticket to Ryde became Ticket to Ride. And who remembers when Abba used to sing take your teeth out, before it became Chiquitita ? (No, that’s just silly. Stop it at once). The thing is, no one else remembers. Yesterday has been quite forgotten.

St Peter’s Church and Sir Bevis of Hampton.

You may have noticed that the tower of St Peter’s Church is adorned around with a series of carvings of a variety of figures, some human, some animal. They are characters from the medieval legend of Sir Bevis of Hampton – i.e. of Southampton. Bevois Valley, south of Portswood, is named after him. The legend is long and complicated and if you want to know the details you can find them at https://historicsouthampton.co.uk/bevis/

 Meanwhile, it is not too difficult to match up the characters in the legend with the figures on the tower.

For a start, there’s Sir Bevis himself :   

And his horse Arondel :  

  

 

And the twins :  

and the boar :      and the lion :  

However, one of the figures is commonly said to be a character not from the Legend of Sir Bevis but rather from the local Curdridge ledgend of Kitty Knocks :

   This story tells of a young woman who drowned one night on Kitnocks Hill while trying to elope. I have written about this affair previously in the Parish News (see: https://bundellbros.co.uk/kevansmiscellany/category/kitnocks-kitty-nocks-curdridge-witch). I have even written a song about it, which you can listen to at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyeD8Jf4KSU (at 18.56).

The question is, who was this character actually intended to be when they built the tower ? Was it meant to be Kitty Nocks, or was it meant to be another character from the Sir Bevis legend – Princess Josian, for example, Sir Bevis’s girlfriend ? In order to try and settle the matter, I headed off to the Hampshire Records Office in Winchester.

I found the papers – letters, documents, plans – relating to the building of St Peter’s Church in 1887. Unfortunately they had nothing to say about the tower, or its inhabitants.

It turns out that the tower was built some seven years later than the church itself – and there are no papers at all in the Records Office relating to the tower.

The mystery remains then. Is it Kitty Knocks, or is it not ?

Kevan Bundell – www.bundellbros.co.uk

Miss Lorna Bayley.

Miss Bayley joined the staff of Eastwick Primary School, I calculate, sometime in 1963/4. I remember her arrival. Suddenly things began to change in our morning school assembly. There were new ideas, new components, creative changes.

She taught my older brother Arnold in his last year at Eastwick in ‘63/4. She became my class teacher in September ’64, and remained so for two years until we left in July 1966.

She had a one-eyed Song Thrush in her garden called Nelson.

She introduced a maths-teaching tool called Colour Factor which was very modern but which I totally failed to comprehend.

It was the time of the Tokyo Olympics. She set maths questions on the board and a race to answer them, awarding Gold, Silver and Bronze stars to the winners . . . I remained starless.

However, she also got us boys gardening (the girls were busy dressmaking I think) – and she put up a bird table outside the classroom window. This was pioneering stuff. At this time feeding the birds mostly meant throwing crusts of bread out in the back garden or hanging up bacon rind. She bought proper bird feed. She put up large RSPB bird identification charts on the classroom wall and Robbie Medland and I competed to identify each bird. We thereby came to know birds which we had never actually seen – and many which I have still not seen.

Miss Balyley also encouraged my artistic leanings – drawing and painting animals and birds. She even set me up with a one-boy show of my work on the corridor wall.

She paid for me to join the RSPB, and continued to pay my subscription for some years after I had left Eastwick and moved away. We corresponded during that time, until I grew into a teenager and probably just stopped writing any more.

I did meet her once during those few years, at an Eastwick School fete in, I would guess, 1968. By this time I had been growing for a couple more years. I towered above her. As the photo of her class shows, she was really very short, only I hadn’t noticed when I was short too. Now I was an awkward thirteen year old. I don’t know what I said to her. I hope I thanked her for being so very good to me.

Shawford’s Lake, Curdridge

It has long been a puzzle to me why the stream which runs by Lake Road/ Silverlake, through Kitnocks Gully and down through Fairthorne Manor to the Hamble, is called Shawford’s Lake. It is in fact a perennial stream of very modest dimensions. It’s certainly nothing like a lake.

But it’s not the only local stream that’s called a lake – there’s also Ford Lake which joins the Hamble at the junction of Wangfield Lane and Maddoxford Lane; and there’s Posbrook Lake which joins at the old slipway on Church Lane in Botley. Just before the Hamble joins the Solent, there’s a tributary called Hook Lake.

Some while ago, I happened to be perusing the Ordnance Survey map of the Solent. I noticed that many of the tidal channels in Portsmouth, Langstone and Chichester Harbours, are called lakes. The main channel of Portsmouth Harbour is fed, for example, by Fareham, Porchester, Spider and Bombketch Lakes. Langstone Harbour is similarly blessed with Broad, Russell’s and Sinah Lakes.

There was obviously a mystery here to be explored.

I consulted my friend David Chun, expert on and author of The River Hamble: A History.  It seems that the word lake has two different etymological origins. On the one hand, our usual and modern word lake comes, via French, from Latin lacus, meaning a lake, basin or tank. There is no suggestion there of a stream. However, the now dialect word used for our tributary streams and channels comes from Germanic Anglo Saxon lacu, meaning lake, pool and also stream. These words are of quite separate origin, but, unsurprisingly, they have become, over time, conflated and confused.

Puzzle solved.

However, another puzzle remains. Silverlake – which is not obviously silver nor a lake – derives its name from Anglo-Saxon Sulaford, which means ford of/at the boggy place. It was a ford on the important road from Botley, through Curdridge, to Shedfield and on to Wickham – before it was bridged – or rather, culverted. As Anglo-Saxon gave way to Middle and so to Modern English, Sula became silver and ford was replaced with lake, referring to the stream. But then how, why and when did it then become Shawford’s Lake ?


Kevan Bundell

www.bundellbros.co.uk

 

The history of Tanglewood

With the arrival of the modern Land Registry, old title deeds have become superfluous and are often simply thrown away when properties come to be sold. Fortunately, our solicitor saved the deeds for us when we moved into Tanglewood and I spent several weeks’ worth of winter evenings trying to unravel the history of the house and its land.

The older papers ‑ the earliest dated 5th July 1853 ‑ are beautifully handwritten documents on thick waxed paper with elaborately scripted titles. Two are written on printed engrossment paper and are sealed at the bottom with wax. From 1925, however, the papers are typed and full of errors and obvious failures to understand what was being copied. The art and experience of the legal clerk had gone.

Among the documents is an “Abstract of Title”, dated 6th August 1883. It begins with a summary of the Will of the 15th March 1862 of one William Camper, concerning, “All those two cottages and premises then lately erected and built by him … with the land and farm buildings thereon and adjoining thereto”. The original building was it seems a pair of two up two down “cottages”, both since substantially extended, one of which, has now become Tanglewood.

“William Camper of Gosport in the parish of Alverstoke in the County of Southampton, Shipbuilder” was one of the founders of the now world-famous yacht-builders firm of Camper and Nicholsons, still based in Gosport. In 1809 the young William Camper was apprenticed for a period of seven years to Francis Amos, a former ferry‑man between Gosport and Portsmouth who had turned to boat building near the ferry steps in 1783. At the age of about thirty‑five Camper took over the shipyard, presumably on the death of Amos, and in the following years built up with his partner Benjamin Nicholson, such a profitable business that he not only became wealthy but also earned himself the status of “Gentry” in the local Post Office Directory.

He seems to have bought the plot of land which has now become Tanglewood in about 1857 and he must have had the cottages built sometime between then and March 1862, the date of his Will. He also seems to have had built a couple of other properties nearby, further along the lane, including a modest Victorian villa which is still called “Camper House”.

When William Camper died in 1863 the land and cottages went to his daughter Mary. Unfortunately, things then appear not to have gone well. Between 1872 and 1883, when Mary died, “various dealings” with a number of individuals resulted in the ownership of the property being divided into three shares, two owned by two of Mary’s four sons and one by a Henry Morton Cotton. It looks as though the other two brothers, and possibly Mary’s second husband, John Earl, had used their shares to raise loans which they failed to repay.

Given this situation the two remaining brothers presumably had no choice but to sell the property. It was sold on the 6th August 1883 to Robert Anthony Burrell of Fairthorne and Augusta Burrell, Spinster, his sister, for the sum of £850.

The Burrells were from a wealthy mine‑owning family from Durham and had come down in 1878 and bought the 120 acre Fairthorne Estate, one boundary of which lay adjacent or close to Camper’s land. There is no record of what they did with the cottages and land but it may have been used to house some of the estate staff. Other houses nearby were especially built by Augusta Burrell for this purpose.

Robert Burrell died in 1910 and his sister, after a long life of local philanthropy, died in 1924. In 1925 the Fairthorne estate was sold by Augusta Burrell’s executors. What had been Camper’s cottages and land was sold to one George William Jupe, Farmer, on the 16th September of that year, for the sum of £1,250. In fact, George Jupe had already been occupying the cottage and land since the 1900’s. This is not stated in the documents, but Alf Mears, who was born in one of the Fairthorne staff cottages in 1912 and then lived in another, told me that it was certainly the case. At one time, said Mr Mears, Jupe courted his Aunt, but nothing came of it and Jupe remained a bachelor. He lived in the cottage with a housekeeper, who kept a small shop in the front room, and her daughter.

What Mr Mears did not know, but the documents reveal, is that in order to buy the property Mr Jupe had borrowed a substantial sum of money. On the day after the sale he mortgaged the entire property to one Allan Bowes Wilson of Hutton Rudby, Yorks, for £1000. Wilson was clearly a relative ‑ perhaps the father or brother ‑ of Augusta Burrell’s solictor John George Wilson of the Durham firm of Wilson, Ornsby and Cadle. Unfortunately, it seems that Jupe was never able to repay the loan. Mr Mears recalls that some time before the war Jupe moved out of the cottage and went to live in a shack on another piece of land that he owned or rented in the village. When I told Mr Mears about the mortgage and how much Jupe had paid for the property he replied that Jupe had been a fool and the property never worth so much.

Jupe must have moved out within a few years because by 1930 the cottage and land were occupied and run as a smallholding by William George and Dorothy Rose Pink. It was during this time that the property at last acquired a name. Although the property had become known informally as Pink’s Farm, when the registration of smallholdings was required, it was named “Field View”, borrowing the already existing name of the other half of the cottage.

The Pinks remained in Field View – or Pink’s farm – until 1971, a year or two after William Pink had died, and the following year Edmund Luxmore, the final heir to the Jupe mortgage, sold the property to our immediate predecessors, who both modernised and extended the house and gave it the name “Tanglewood”.

The deeds of the property now end with some papers relating to our purchase of Tanglewood in the summer of 1993, taking us to modern times. As mentioned earlier, the oldest document dates to 1853, so the deeds now cover one hundred and forty years of our home’s history. However, after some time and study I discovered that the deeds actually take us a great deal further back than the 1850’s – as far back, in fact, as the fourteenth century.

The fields which are now Tanglewood were formerly part of the lands of Bishops Waltham Manor. In 1925, the same year that George Jupe purchased the property from the Fairthorne Estate, the copyhold rights of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, “Lords of the said Manor of Bishops Waltham”, were “enfranchised and conveyed ……. in fee simple as freehold henceforth and for ever discharged from all fines quit rents heriots and other incidents of copyhold tenure”. In other words, the land became freehold and the Manor’s rights over the property were abolished. Prior to that, however, whenever the property was sold the new owner had to be ‘admitted’ by the payment of a ‘fine’ to the court of the Manor. Among the papers we inherited with the house and land is a copy of a document giving such admission, with the original dated November 1864. The document lists and describes not only Tanglewood but also other adjacent and nearby plots of land. The description of one of these reads as follows:

“…. by estimation ten acres of land now called Outlands formerly Isold in the tithing of Curdridge in six closes now divided under the yearly rent of 1s being late parcel of one messuage and one yard of Boudland and one toft and half a yard of Boudland formerly Isold at Park and other premises ….”

The word “Isold” was a puzzle to me. The other unfamiliar words were in the dictionary ‑ a messuage is a dwelling with its outbuildings and attached land; a toft is a dwelling with attached rights to use common land and “Boudland” is presumably “bondland”, a holding where the tenant was obliged to render some kind of services at harvest and at ploughing time to the Lord of the Manor. “Isold”, however, was not in the dictionary.

At first sight, except for the capitals, it appeared to be a verb ‑ something which had happened or been done to the land ‑ but without knowing what it might mean I had some doubt. It was only when my neighbour, a local historian, handed me a copy of the “1332 and 1464 Rentals of the Manors of Bishops Waltham”, translated from the Latin originals by Harold Barstow, (1992), that the mystery was solved. There in the list of tenants and their holdings for 1464 I found, “ISOLDA daughter of the late Andrew at Park”. I realised immediately that I had been missing the clue given by the word “formerly”. This is in fact always used in the documents – as standard legal usage – to refer to a previous owner. Isolda at Park had managed to survive centuries of intervening tenancies and continue to appear on the court’s description of the land ‑ a medieval landholder in a nineteenth century document.

Isolda’s name first appears on the list of 1332, although it was only added at some later and unspecified time when the list was updated. She is shown as having succeeded one Andrew le Thatchare to “one cottage in purpresture” ‑ that is, a cottage built by encroaching on a public road or track. By 1464, however, she had become a more substantial landholder and is recorded as having four tenancies scattered throughout the southern part of the tithing of Curdridge.   It then became clear from a sketch map prepared by E.M. Stevenson on the basis of Harold Barstow’s translation (“Curdridge in 1464”, Hampshire Field Club,1993) that one of her holdings included the land now occupied by Tanglewood (look for Q3) :

The medieval documents show that Isolda’s predecessors to the holdings were also at Parks. One tenancy was previously held by her father Andrew; the other three were previously held by one Peter at Park ‑ perhaps her uncle or her brother. Peter in turn had been preceded by Roger at Park in one case and by Robert at Park in another. The third holding appears to have been the one already mentioned above as having come from Andrew le Thatchare. One of Peter’s holdings had earlier been held by Thomas and Margaret at Park, as indeed had the holding Isolda presumably inherited from her father. By 1464, however, there are no other at Park’s listed as tenants not only in the tithing of Curdridge but anywhere on the Manor’s lands. The question is, where had the family gone?

The Black Death swept England in 1348‑49 and decimated whole villages. However, that would seem too early to explain why only Isolda seems to have remained by 1464 when there were clearly other at Parks alive in the intervening years. On the other hand, rates of mortality, particularly among mothers and infants, were high enough in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries irrespective of the plague and perhaps this is the reason not only for the absence of other at Parks but also why Isolda inherited from Peter at Park as well as her father, Andrew. Her name survived in the documents, I believe, because she was the first tenant to be written down and recorded in the court’s lists. This record therefore became part of the defining description of the holding as it passed from tenant to tenant across the centuries.

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The History of Tanglewood – Part 2

Since I wrote the above, new evidence has come to light about the original form of the house built for William camper in 1860 (or thereabouts). It seems that the original house may in fact have been one – not two.

William Camper’s Will of the 15th March 1862 says “All those two cottages and premises then lately erected and built by him … with the land and farm buildings thereon and adjoining thereto”. I concluded from this that the original building was a pair of two up two down “cottages”. However, Flem and Edna Alison – from whom we bought Tanglewood – have always begged to differ. Having rebuilt half the house, and added to it, in the early ‘70s, they maintained that it was originally built as one house. This would explain the clear presence of a bricked-up doorway in the middle of the front elevation – which was always a puzzle.

Last year we had a downstairs bathroom created between our downstairs bedroom at the front and the back room behind. That is, between the front and back rooms of the old part of the building. We made some interesting discoveries.

Firstly, we unburied a short brick path running parallel with and between the two rooms. Christina from up the road, whose grandparents had lived in the house (the Pinks), confirmed that this was the floor of the cellar under the stairs – which also served as the air-raid shelter during the war.

Secondly, our builders happened to expose a patch of the rear wall of our bedroom, the front room. The patterned brickwork revealed clearly matched the brickwork of the original outside walls elsewhere. That is, this must once also have been an exterior wall and the original house must only have been one room deep – two downstairs and two upstairs. The rooms behind and the division of the house must have come later.

I can speculate when.  During George Jupe’s time the house was as it had been built and his housekeeper’s shop in one of the front rooms (which then sported a bay window) was accessed by the front door. After the property was repossessed – and before the Pink’s moved in ? – the house was divided and more rooms added at the back. Unfortunately, the only witness I could have checked this with, David Mears, who told me about Jupe and his housekeeper, is no longer with us.

So what are we to make of William Camper’s Will saying “those two cottages lately built” ? If the original Tanglewood was one, where’s the other ? My guess is that it might refer to the semis up the lane which sit beside Camper House. I had a word with the current occupant of one of the two and he was of the opinion that the house was once one. If so, then either another house was added beside the original, or, as in the case of Tanglewood, a single dwelling was subsequently rent asunder.

2024

Curdridge and Curbridge – the same or different ?

          

                 Curdridge                                                       Curbridge

I have often wondered whether the two Curs in our parish[1] are the same or different. That is, are they of same etymological origin, or are they just an historical coincidence ?

The first thing I noticed when I began to explore this mystery is that the first edition of the Ordnance Survey 1 inch map of South Hampshire solved the problem by deciding that they were one and the same. According to the map there is no such place as Curdridge. Everything is labelled Curbridge – not only Curbridge itself, but also Curbridge Common (the fields from the top of Station Hill to Lockhams Road, Curdridge Lane and The Plantation) and Curbridge House (now Kitnocks House at the top of Kitnocks Hill). They should, of course, be Curdridge Common and Curdridge House. Either the surveyors got confused or maybe someone in the office decided that the surveyors had made a spelling mistake. Fortunately, this was all corrected in later editions.

The next thing I did was e-mail my friend, and local historian, David Chun. He has written a fine book on the history of the River Hamble and its surrounds so I thought I’d ask what he knew about Curdridge and Curbridge. He advised me that he had read that ‘place name interpretation is complex, and not something that an amateur should dabble in!’

However, he also referred me to ‘The Place-Names of Hampshire’ by Richard Coates (1989). He then pointed out that there was a copy available on Amazon for 79p. I bought it at once. The postage was a good bit more of course, but still, it was a good purchase: it answered my question.

Curdridge originates from an Anglo-Saxon name meaning Cuthred’s ridge. In other words, some chap called Cuthred ‘owned’ or had otherwise been granted possession of what we now know as the village of Curdridge, which lies – largely – on a ridge.

Curbridge, meanwhile, was variously known – or at least spelt –as Kernebrugge, Kerebrigge, Kernebregge and Cornebrigge. These names – or spellings – do not obviously have any connection to our man Cuthred. The common cur component in the two village names is, it would seem, a coincidence.

But then there is another mystery. Mr Coates is not at all sure what the meaning of Curbridgde’s Kerne, etc, might in fact be. He is convinced on historical-linguistic grounds that it comes from the Anglo-Saxon for quern – that is, the lower stone of a hand-driven grinding mill, once a common domestic item. He is then understandably unconvinced that anyone would try to build a bridge over a river with a collection of quern-stones. It is, he says, a question he prefers to leave open.

One possibility, of course, is that kern does not refer to – or describe – the bridge, but was, as it is now, the name of the river. But then why would you name a river after a grinding stone ?

My reluctant conclusion is that what David said is right and that this is not the sort of thing an amateur should dabble in.


Kevan Bundell

  1. The Parish is Curdridge, of which Curbridge is a hamlet.

Frog Mill or Paper Mill ?

Frog Mill or Paper Mill ?

A few months ago I mentioned in the Parish News that Frogmill Track – off Wangfield Lane – is so-called because it leads, by footpath, to the now derelict Frog Mill. This was a paper mill, not a corn mill. Rumour says that it used to make paper for Bank of England bank notes, or for the Morning Post newspaper. After my comment appeared I received a phone call from Miss Katherine Stone, formerly of `The Elms’, Outlands Lane, now living in Botley. She was keen to tell me that the correct name of the mill is Paper Mill, not Frog Mill. Her grandfather lived there and always called it by that name.

Here was a mystery. It is certainly known as Frog Mill, or Frogmill, nowadays, and is named as such on OS maps. But even within living memory it was also, it seems, known as Paper Mill. I immediately contacted Dennis Stokes of the Botley and Curdridge Local history Society to see if he could help solve the conundrum. He sent me a paper from the Society’s archives, researched and written by John Hammond , which tells the following story :

Just a quarter of a mile upstream from Frog/Paper Mill sits Durley Mill. In the 12th, 13th and 14th centuries this mill was owned by a family called Frogge. Furthermore the deeds of this mill called it `Frogmill’ right up to the 20th century. Our mill, meanwhile, was, from its earliest record, in 1648, `called a Papermill’ and it was not until 1738 that it is first referred to as Frog Mill. By 1834 it is clearly referred to as `a paper mill known as Frogmill’.

There was obviously some confusion over the centuries and the name Frog transferred from Durley Mill to the Paper Mill, despite the name Frogge remaining on the former’s deeds. John Hammond suggests that Durley Mill `was, no doubt, referred to generally by the name of whoever the owner at that time might be’. This would explain at least why it lost the Frog name over time, leaving the name free to float downstream.

By 1862 Paper Mill was, according to its deeds, `long since disused’, although people continued to live in its associated cottage. John Hammond reports that Jesse Bannell (who was Ms Stone’s Grandfather) and his family lived there from 1871 until at least 1891 and that Walter Henry Elliott and family lived there from 1901 until the 1920s. By 1938 the cottage was no longer occupied and by 1965 the building were all derelict.

It remains a minor mystery how it was that while everyone else followed the confusing of the names and mills, those who lived there still knew very well that the `correct’ name was in fact Paper Mill. We must thank Miss Stone for keeping this knowledge alive.

Kevan Bundell

11.08.15

Richard Phillimore (1907 – 2004).

I first met Commander Richard Phillimore RN (Rtrd) in about 1968 when a friend took me to the Stamp Club which Richard hosted in the playroom of his ancestral home, Shedfield House, near Southampton.  The room had been Richard’s playroom when he was a boy, in the 19-teens’s.  Now it was full of young people again, swapping stamps.  It was not that Richard was particularly interested in stamps, it was rather that he was committed to helping young people, both practically and spiritually.

Richard first got  involved with young people when he was a junior officer in the Royal Navy in the late 1930s.  He was put in charge of boy recruits sent from shore based training establishments to his ship.  He was disturbed to find that they all behaved like zombies, highly disciplined and without personality.  He tried to encourage them to be individuals. (What his superiors might have thought of this approach is unknown . . . ).  But the key event in Richard’s commitment to young people came in 1940 when he found himself about to crash- land in an RAF Wellington bomber which had ran out of fuel.  Richard prayed for the crew and for himself.  He promised that if he should be spared he would like to give his life to helping young people.  He was spared, but he was left hanging upside down from the wreckage trapped by his twisted legs.  He was told by his doctors that he would never walk again.  Fortunately this proved not to be the case and after expert medical care he was back playing cricket – his favourite game – within a year.

I met Richard a few years after he had met the Focolare – an ecumenical movement originating in Italy.[1]  He was always looking for new spiritual movements, especially those which might be attractive to young people. He had gone to a Focolare meeting in London and inspired by what he had heard, he came home and started a group for young people.  I was one of those who became involved, attracted by the practical advice of how to put love into action.  Richard provided us with a place to meet and with transport in his old Volvo to meetings where we spoke about our experiences of trying to put love into practice.  He also took us to the annual Focolare Mariapolis in Manchester and to meetings in London.  He took groups to Focolare centres in Rome, Loppiano and Vallo and to Belgium. There were always young people coming to stay at Shedfield House, including from Belgium and from Northern Ireland – a mixed group of Catholics and Protestants.  Sometimes, however, Richard’s enthusiasm could perhaps overrun his understanding.  He once organised his own Mariapolis for local young people, somewhat to the alarm of the Focolare HQ in London, who only heard about it at the last minute !

The Focolare /GEN was only one of Richard’s many spiritual adventures.  At home he was a stalwart of his local Anglican Church and a Sunday-school teacher.  He was also involved with a local Community Church,  with an Alpha Group,  and with the YMCA, helping to tackle the very practical problem of homelessness and rough sleeping among young people in the 1980s.  He also took a group of young people to Taizé in France.

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In 1996 I asked Richard if he wouldn’t mind me interviewing him in order to write a brief article on his life and role in the village, as a farmer and local Squire.  I was planning on an hour or two.  “We might as well start at the beginning”, he said, and proceeded to recount his entire life in month by month – sometimes week by week – detail.  We finally finished nearly one year later.

I was particularly fascinated by his experiences during the Second World War.  He had flown as an observer in Fairy Swordfishes and Grumman Avengers.  He had been deputed by his Admiral to check out the new rockets that the RAF were fitting to Hurricanes and Typhoons – which is how they came to be fitted to Swordfishes too.  He had visited Hiroshima only six weeks after the bomb.

However, he was particularly interested in telling his spiritual adventures and in 2000 Richard produced his own version of his life, entitled  ‘A Spiritual Odyssey’.

I had clearly failed him.[2]

Richard’s autobiography is a fascinating account of Richard’s thoughts and explorations of spirituality over his long life.  Near the end he writes :

‘I hope that this short book may be of value to lay people and especially to those like myself, who are of an inquisitive nature, and want to know what is God’s will for us on our Christian pilgrimage.’

He was indeed spiritually inquisitive, and he always kept to his promise to try and help young people find both themselves and God.  It was a privilege to be his friend.  Richard passed away in 2004 at the age of 97.

[1] http://www.focolare.org/en

[2] I never did write my intended article.  However, my notes and recordings of the interviews now form part of the Phillimore Papers archived in the Hampshire Records Office.  So too does ‘A Spiritual Odyssey’, which you can read  here via the Menu tabs.

Prices School Fareham ‘Folk’ Concerts – 1969-75.

The 1960’s and into the 70’s was a time of great socio-cultural change – as you may have noticed at the time, or heard since.   Even Fareham was affected – including Prices Grammar School for Boys.   We were encouraged by the spirit of the times – and by certain seditious teachers in English, Drama and Art – to be creative.  Music was the prime medium. The Beatles, Dylan, Paul Simon, and so on, meant that there was both a new permission and a new demand to be creative.  In any case, it was obviously fabulous/groovy/far out to be able to play the guitar and sing – and there was also the chance that the girls we knew might think so too . . .

And so we learnt to play the guitar and to write songs if we possibly could.

Meanwhile, it was a well known fact that the Headmaster, Mr Eric Poyner, believed that the guitar was ‘the instrument of the devil’.

I can see his point.  As a staunchly upper-middle class member of the Church of England, and of an older generation brought up in very different times, he must have been horrified when faced first with rock and roll and then by the libertine antics of The Rolling Stones and the aggression of The Who.   Worst of all,  the hippies :  free love, drugs and long hair.  Even the Beatles had become provocative during the second half of the sixties.  They had grown their long hair even longer.

Meanwhile, as mentioned, a lot of us had learned to play the guitar.

And we had long hair of course.

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The origins of the Prices ‘Folk’ Concert tradition are difficult to pin down because for all those involved it was a very long time ago.   However, sometime in 1968 (probably) two sixth formers, Pat Gatland and Michael Knight – still with relatively short hair – managed to get permission to hold an evening Folk Concert.  Presumably they had the help of one or other of the younger teachers.  By that time, guitars and folk-style songs were even being heard in church ( Kumbaya, Shalom chevarim) – which must have helped.  Everything was acoustic of course and the songs were both traditional and modern – but folk.  There were even girl performers in the persons of Kathy Russell and a friend.    Other concerts followed in May 1969 and December 1969 – both of which I attended.  Among the performers, I recall Pat Gatland, Paul Hawes and Kathy Russell.  The material remained acoustic and folky – although it seems there may also have been a rendition of the song ‘Cocaine’. . .

The next event was in February 1970.  By this time Paul and Pat had moved on and the responsibility for keeping the ‘tradition’ going had been taken up by Chris Bard (Prices Head Boy, or soon to become so) assisted musically by Dave Cummins (Pricean) and Martin (Tink) Wood (former Pricean).

Here’s what happened:  in January 1970, Chris and Co began to hire (or possibly just occupy) the Funtley Village Hall on Saturday afternoons in order to create and rehearse for a forthcoming event at Prices which was to be called The Light Show.  In addition to serious rehearsal there was also general music, general hanging out and a pool table.  Chris was good enough to give me a game of pool and wiped me out in about 60 seconds.    When it came to the show itself, my important role was to assist on the lights.

     

The Light Show introduced two key innovations.  One was to add poetry reading and comic sketches to the mix.  Chris led in both.  He wrote and performed obscure poetry and bizarre sketches involving, for example, woodpecker sound-effects and inappropriate French translations.  The second innovation was more fundamental.  Dave and Tink had obtained a P.A. system and an electric guitar.  Andy Vores, meanwhile, was the enthusiastic possessor of a drum kit.   Prices ‘folk’ concerts went electric –  and this was only five years after Dylan had done the very same thing.

Meanwhile, the Saturday afternoon gatherings continued after the show and culminated on April 25th 1970 in an ‘event’ billed as TWEADIFARG ( The West End and District Folk Arts Revival Group), more music and hanging-out as I recall.

Another Prices concert/show/review took place on 6th November 1970.  Dave, Tink and Andy played, but that’s all I can discover.  There  was then another Chris and Co event on the 10th and 11th  December 1970 called Something to Remember.  Music, poetry, sketches, surrealism.  Dave, Tink, Andy and John Cameron played as Gigolo.  I believe I may have done the lights again.

The acoustic tradition had also continued throughout these shows and one of the acoustic performers was Dick Hubbard, an English Teacher at Prices.  He sang traditional ballads such as  the beautiful ‘Geordie’ – while playing the guitar.  (It was also he who reported to us Mr Poyner’s opinion of the aforesaid instrument).

Another performer was Nick Manley.  He had become well known for a entertaining us with an anti-war song of the time and another involving Adam and Eve and a snakeAt one or other of the concerts he was forced by audience demand to sing them again.  Unfortunately, on this occasion, Mr Poyner happened to be listening at the back.  “ I was suspended” says Nick “for singing the Fish Cheer/Fixing to Die Rag[1] and The One Eyed Trouser Snake. I don’t know which song caused the most offence.”

Chris and Co moved on.   The next event – not until December 1971 – was back to the concert format.  We called it Reflections of Summer.  I say ‘we’ because now I was a sixth-former and organised the event together with Paul Gateshill and others.  Perhaps that’s why our band – Lonene – had two slots in the programme while everyone else only had one !  Despite having moved on, Dave and Tink also played,  so too did Dick Hubbard, Bob Gilbert (Head of Music), Nick Manley and Springwind – Nick Kahn, Mick Daysh and Dave CledwynThey also supported Andy Vores who had by then become a singer-songwriter-pianist-composer.  In fact most of us were singer-songwriters – Nick Manley, Lonene, Morningstar, Springwind.  We were creating and delivering original songs and music – and our audience was kind enough to respond with enthusiasm.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Next came Gromboolia, in March 1972, organised by Nick Manley and poet Alan Hill.  The line-up was in part similar to the preceding concert but also included but also included many others, as can be seen from the programme :

Note that Nick and Alan – who would then have been in the Upper Sixth Form – organised a concert after we – who must have been in the Lower Sixth – organised Reflections of Summer.  How the devil did we junior boys get away with it ?

Someone organised another concert in May 1973.  It could have been me and others.  I can’t remember.  However, Lonene performed again – Paul Gateshill, Tracey Coles, Dave Cledwyn and myself.  So too did Nick Kahn and Mick Daysh, but now with Jackie White (previously with Lonene); and the Andy Vores band, which incorporated folks promiscuously from other bands and elsewhere.  Kathy and Rosalind Russell also made a reappearance after long absence.  New performers included PINT (Paul McNeil, Ivor Bundell, Neil Pritchard and Tracey Coles) and Tarsus (Chris Nash, Mark Luckham and Andy Sandham ).

This concert was recorded.  I had a cassette recorder which I must have put in front of the PA speakers and pressed play and record.

I also recorded part of the last concert I attended – after I had left Prices – in July 1975.  This was, once again, of the highly promiscuous, now even further expanded, Andy Vores band – which included Ivor Bundell, Tracey Coles,  Mick Daysh, John Cameron, Kate Burleigh and Liz Kearns – who both sang and danced.  This recording is available now in digital format should you wish – for some reason – to hear it.

What happened to the tradition beyond 1975 I do not know.  Prices was beginning its transition from Grammar school to Sixth Form College and times were [a-]changing.  If anyone knows what happened next, please tell us.

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An important NOTE :  What I was unaware of at the time and has only recently come to light is that an event similar to those above took place one evening in 1969 – organised by a certain Spike Edney.   His account, Price’s: A Musical Underground will be available via the Old Pricean’s website in due course. 

 

Dramatis personae.

Pat(rick) Gatland moved to Australia, where he continues to write and perform in a folky manner together with his daughter Meg and others.   Some of their music can be heard on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbx-GIVzm6rANKKQdtJaQ7g

  There seems to be a general consensus still that Dave Cummins was the most talented and creative guitarist of the time.  He also had a wonderful Swedish Hagstrom acoustic guitar with a built-in pick-up – unheard of in those days.  Early on he played with Martin (Min) Gateshill and was thereby an influence on Min’s younger brother Paul Gateshill.  Paul, in turn,  helped me learn how to play the guitar. That is, I had to strum chords for him for hours while he practised his magic-fingered lead.

Martin WoodTink – (Mar[tin K]enneth Wood) also played with Dave from early on.  I was always puzzled that he played a nylon-strung Spanish Guitar rather than steel, but he was a great guitarist anyway.  Both Tink and Dave were an inspiration and wrote some great songs together, and with Nick Manley too – see below.

 

Chris (No-holds) Bard was a general inspiration to us all – an impresario rather than a musical influence – although I’m told he played the saxophone.  He was a huge creative talent – founder of and contributor to the ‘Black Lion’, organiser of ‘folk’ concerts/shows/’reviews’ and other events, Head Boy at Prices – when he seemed to take over morning Assembly, leaving the Headmaster and staff diminished in his wake.Chris_Bard

Unfortunately, Chris, Tink and Dave are no longer with us.

You can find an obituary for Chris at http://www.societyofoldpriceans.co.uk/pupils.htm

I met Tink again when we travelled up to London on the train together in the early 2000s.  He was as delightful, gentle and kind a man as I had always remembered him.  Then timetables changed and we no longer coincided.  Next thing I heard, he had gone.  Tink’s wife Jane (n. Suter) had also been part of the creativity – the sketches in particular.  She is also gone.

Dave I never knew so well.  He took to writing music for computer games before his health gave out on him.

Lamentations for each of them, and for the loss to us of their great talents.

  Nick Manley emerged for me as a solo performer – as described above.  But he also played in Springwind and, writing songs together with Dave, Tink and others and forming the truly wonderful band Red Shift – https://soundcloud.com/theoriginalredshift   Nick has since had a long and prolific writing and performing career in various bands and solo – much of it in France. More recently he has been generous enough to play together with myself, Mick Daysh (see below) and Chris Nash (ditto) under the banner of The Old Boys Band.  Our oeuvre has included some Red Shift  classics.

Nick Kahn originally learnt to play classical guitar and this led him to write some beautiful instrumental pieces performed together with Mick Daysh and Jackie White on flutes.  He has since gone on to write and perform fine songs, often accompanied by his daughters Anna on bass and Eleanor on guitar, and still by Mick Daysh on flute.

Andy Vores was a prolific composer/song-writer on piano.  Having first been a rock drummer, his piano-playing was often frenetic.  In fact he sometimes played faster than his fingers could follow.  The results were wonderful, and very different from the songs the rest of us wrote on guitars.  He was also a showman and liked to organise large numbers of musicians, singers and even dancers on stage to help perform his creative complexities.  He went on from Prices to study music composition and then moved to the US , where he became a successful modern-classical composer and Chair of Composition, Theory and Music History at the Boston Conservatory.  http://andyvores.com/andyvoresbio.html

Mick/Michael Daysh fluted with most of the above.  It is always good to find someone who plays a proper orchestral instrument – more colours on the palette. Mick still flutes, but nowadays he also writes songs and sings, with guitar or keyboard and a band.  Mick also plays with electro-acoustic classical guitarist Chris Nash.

Chris Nash went on from Prices to take a music degree and to record instrumental music with Andy Sandham.  He has also performed regularly in folk, rock and jazz bands. He also partakes of an instrumental guitar duet, ‘Nash and Thompson’, playing jazz, acoustic and classical pieces (https://soundcloud.com/search?q=nash%20and%20thompson

Paul Gateshill has never stopped writing and performing – and playing some great lead guitar (owing to my strumming for him for hours you understand).  He has also recorded two solo Albums/CDs  (search Spotify, Amazon, YouTube) and been an essential contributor to the fourAlbums/CD’s produced by my brother Ivor and myself, Ivor and Kevan Bundell.

 

We three – and other friends – also recorded an actual LP in 1976 called Presence, which is now available as a CD :


Details of our various albums – and some of our songs to listen to – can be found at www.bundellbros.co.uk .  I particularly recommend you have a listen to ‘Mr Mitchell’s Angel’.

Paul Gateshill, Ivor and Kevan Bundell, Chris Nash, Michael Daysh, Nick Kahn and Nick Manley are now regular performers at Tanglefest – an annual Summer Garden Party and Concert event which happens at my place in Curdridge.  Please send me an e-mail – kbundell@yahoo.co.uk –  if you’d like to to be invited.  All old friends/acquaintances/Priceans and everyone else are very welcome.

Another performer at Tanglefest has been Martin Gateshill  – mentioned above as a friend of Dave Cummins and brother of Paul.  Although he never played at one of Price’s Folk Conerts, he has interesting things to report of earlier days :

 The very 1st electric band to come out of Prices was in 65 or 6. It featured me on Drums and I regret I can’t recall the names of the others. It was the creation of the incredible English teacher of the time, Mr Johnson. I think that was how I crossed paths with Dave and Tink a little later. The three of us formed a Trio called The Ash in 65/6 doing mainly The Who covers. I have a very scratchy recording of a couple of songs. Tink was lead guitar and vocals, he played a dreadful old Egmond guitar which cut his fingers to shreds the action was so high. Dave had a ‘catalogue’ Bass guitar and learned to play it as we went.

Between 1964 when we got started and 1968 we had written over 50 – 60 songs between us and did very few covers of any genre. Dave was easily the best and most creative musician of our cohort, a great friend and fellow traveller.

At that time [mid 60s] Dave and I were a Duo called Tog. I had an old Hoyer 12 string and Dave had a Hagstrom which I rescued. Neither of us knew anything about guitars at that time other than some were harder to play than others. How did I rescue it ? One weekend we were at Wickham at the home of a friend of a friend by the name of Frank Rumble. Frank produced the Hagstrom which had a huge body and really nice slim neck. Sadly the neck was completely snapped off just below the nut. I said I thought I could repair that and Frank said we could have it. I took it away to see what could be done. It was a perfect break, no material missing at all and would glue back almost invisibly. I did that, clamped it up using my dads tools and materials, left it for 24 hours, did a little cosmetic work and found it to be good as new. I handed it to Dave and the rest as they say, is history 😉

Nick Manley has more to say about the history of Dave’s famous Hagstrom :

I notice that the Hagstrom guitar is mentioned quite a bit in your scribing. I know some more of the story.  Dave gifted the guitar to one Steve Denholm in the late 1970’s, in the Red Shift days. He, Steve and John Cameron worked at Polygraphic, a printing firm in Titchfield. The guitar was again in a bad way and Steve renovated it once more, stripping the varnish off and rendering to a blond finish, and resetting the neck. Once again a lovely instrument. Steve let me borrow it for a recording session when we were in Surrey Sound studios. After that we drifted apart but I ran into him again a few years back at Titchfield folk club. He was playing a Martin and is now a very good bluesy/jazzy player and I had to ask if he still had the guitar.  Sadly no. He had given it to a friend who was learning to play, but he has lost contact with him. He said he would try and I am still waiting………..

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PS  Comments, corrections and additions to the above most welcome – kbundell@yahoo.co.uk

 

[1] Country Joe and the Fish’s anti Vietnam War anthem which begins ‘Give us an F ! . . .’

Why is Rupert Bear so popular ?

By Kevan Bundell

[1]

When it comes to fictional bears in Britain, there are three great allegiances:  to Paddington,  to Poo and to Rupert.  It may be that your family sensibly enjoyed all three.  Mine was exclusively devoted to Rupert.   This was the doing first of my Great-Uncle George and then of my Mother.   On the 3rd November 1930  Great-Uncle George cut out from the Daily Express newspaper part one of  a  new Rupert adventure  ‘Rupert and Bill keep shop’.  He did the same each day until  the adventure was complete and then gave the cuttings to his niece – my mother.  He continued to do the same, almost without interruption, until the 5th February 1937.

I know this because these cuttings are now on my bookshelves.  They lived for many years at my Grandma’s, each adventure in a numbered paper bag.   I must have gone through them a dozen times during my childhood.  When they  were passed to me and I came to sort them out I found the bag numbers were quite random and I had to consult the Rupert Museum in Canterbury to discover how to order them chronologically.  I then got Mum to slip them into photo albums in an organised fashion.  She recalled with pleasure how her Uncle George (with no children of his own) would bring each completed adventure and read them to her while she looked at the pictures.

My siblings and I were then brought up on Rupert Annuals from the mid 1950s to the mid ‘60s.   This means that while Mum was brought up on Rupert in a blue jumper (on the then contemporary book covers) and on stories written and illustrated by Rupert’s creator, Mary Tourtel, we were raised on the red-jumpered, yellow-check trousered  Rupert created by Alfred Bestall.  He took over the task of continuing the already hugely popular Rupert comic strip in 1935 when Mary Tourtel retired.

Rupert continues his adventures in the Daily Express and in Rupert Annuals even now.  New artists took over after Bestall retired in 1965 – but they were all obliged to follow him closely.  Since 2010 the paper and the annuals seem to rely on recycling old stories.  Fortunately there is no shortage – and the audience, of course, is renewed constantly.

But why did Rupert become so popular in the first place and why has he remained so popular ever since ?

Rupert is of course a bear.  He is not exactly a teddy-bear, but he is close enough.  By the time Rupert arrived, the teddy-bear was already a well established part of British childhood – a companion, a comfort at night, a half real, half imaginary friend.  At the same time, Rupert is also a child – with a mother, a father and a home.  (Rupert even has his own bedroom).  He is also, by the way, the ‘baby’ bear of three bears (even if there’s no Goldilocks).[2] Rupert and his family are both (teddy) bears and people.   Everything adds up to a character which a young child could and can still  identify with.

Rupert also has playmates – friends of his own age:  Bill Badger,  Algernon Pug, Edward Trunk, Podge the pig and the little girl Margot (all Tourtel creations), Pong Ping, Tiger Lilly, Gregory Guinea-pig, Rastus Mouse (introduced by Bestall) and many more.  He also has animal friends – Tourtel’s fox, Beppo the monkey and the ubiquitous black cat – somewhat like the pet a child might have at home – or might hope to have.  Rupert is also surrounded by caring grown-ups – not only his parents, but many others :  the Professor and his curious dwarf servant, Sailor Sam, the Wise Old Goat, the Nutwood police constable, even Gaffer Jarge.  In between, there are the three Girl Guides and Rollo the gypsy boy.

In other words, Rupert lives in a world which is caring, safe and full of friends of all ages – just like his young audience.

Rupert also has rather more secret friends –  the Imps of Spring, the merboy, the King of Birds and his entourage,  Jack Frost.  He also has friends which are really animate toys – the golly and the boy scout for example.  These are the kind of friends familiar to most children – in their imaginations.  He is even friends with Father Christmas himself !  Rupert also talks to animals and birds – the fox, the wise owl, the hedgehog, a passing sparrow.  Interestingly, these various friends are usually known only to Rupert himself, and not to his friends.  They are part of Rupert’s own secret, ‘imaginary’ world – just as his young audience might have their own secret, imaginary world known only to themselves, not even shared with friends.

Rupert also has adventures.   His adventures range from the scary to the mysterious and on to the enchanting – sometimes all of them within one story.  Tourtel’s adventures were often based on the traditionally menacing world of fairy-tales – with witches, ogres and gangs of robbers.  In fact she raided a whole range of children’s stories – some scary (pirates, a wolf in a bed, a wicked uncle, a Black Knight, African chiefs and white hunters, Red Indians), some friendly (Robinson Crusoe, Father Christmas), and some simply difficult (Humpty Dumpty).  When Bestall took over he was explicitly instructed that there should be no ‘bad characters’.   The editor was afraid  that the stories were in danger of scaring off their young audience.  So was Bestall, but he couldn’t help it.  In Rupert and the Travel Machine, for example, one of the earliest Bestall stories (1937) there’s an evil inventor who imprisons Rupert and Bill and will only set them free if they test his new invention.   In Rupert and the Pine Ogre (1957) we meet a megalomaniac Lord of Silence who plans to replace all the green woodland of Nutwood with a dark and silent forest of pine.  Rupert’s adventures often involve him getting lost in one way or another – in a forest, in a crowd – a familiar child’s anxiety.  Or imprisoned – in a castle, in a cave. The fact is, scary makes a good story, and children like to be scared – as long as it all ends safely – as it always does.  Both Tourtel’s and Bestall’s stories begin at home – with Rupert off on an errand for his mother, going out to play, or on a day out somewhere. Both end their stories with Rupert safely home again – running to his mother’s arms,  recounting his day’s adventures to his incredulous parents.

Nonetheless, Bestall did manage to move Rupert’s adventures away from the dark world of traditionally grim fairy-tale to a world of more delightfully mysterious goings-on and, usually, more friendly, or at least less wicked characters.  He also moved from the medieval to more contemporary times – with  Rupert visiting London to see the Queen for example, or going on seaside holidays by train.   There were always characters still rolling up anachronistically in historical costume though, keeping up the connection to times past and to fairy tales.

Bestall was also told ‘no magic’.  But children love magic, as he well knew.  He replaced the magic of fairy tales with the magic of Tiger Lilly and her father, the Chinese Conjurer.  He introduced the Imps of Spring and of Autumn. They are ‘fairy’ characters but also necessary in a practical way to ensure the proper functioning of the seasons.  Still, he managed to replace Tourtel’s magic boots and other magically flying items with more ‘scientific’/mechanical devices such as spring-loaded boots, balloons and propellers.  He also introduced the Professor and his various ‘scientific’  inventions and, once, a secret underground travelator which got Rupert back from lost in London to safely home in Nutwood.

Both Tourtel and Bestall were particularly fond of flying – every child’s dream. Tourtel had Rupert  flying by magic mostly – although also by aeroplane.  Bestall continued the aeroplane and practical theme, but he also had Rupert carried on the back of an eagle, on a winged horse and even on the wind.

Often Rupert’s adventures and the characters he meets are enchanting – the imps, the merboy, talking crabs, even the sea-serpent.   And the frogs.  Especially the frogs – as Paul McCartney noted.

Rupert’s own character is also an important part of his attractiveness.  He is always kind, even when the characters he meets lead him a dance – Raggety  the tree-creature, for example.  He always tries to do his best to help, even though he is often quite out of control of what’s happening to him – but in the end he succeeds and all ends happily.  This is a comforting message to young children who must often feel lost and powerless in their real world.

A key ‘character’ in Rupert’s adventures is the idyllic countryside of Nutwood and its surroundings. Nutwood village sits in a scene of green fields and woodlands.  There are hills nearby, sometimes gentle, sometimes rocky and almost mountainous.  The landscape is apparently an amalgamation of the Sussex Weald, Surrey, the Cotswolds  and Snowdonia (where Bestall had a holiday cottage).  Meanwhile, the seaside holidays that Rupert and his family take seem to be to places like the fishing villages and coves of the West country.  In any case, Rupert’s local world is an invocation of an ideal English – and Welsh – countryside.

But why should this be of interest to young children ?  They would surely be too young to have imbibed the cultural ideal, so it would have no particular draw for them.  Unlike their parents.  This is the clue of course.  Nutwood and its surroundings resonate for adults.  So too does the time – the period – in which Rupert’s world is set.  Rupert began in the twenties and thirties and when Bestall took over he kept him in that world – which is where he largely remains.  For adults Rupert invokes not only the nostalgia of childhood but also a nostalgia of place and time.   Meanwhile, young readers become adults and the cultural ideal of the countryside is still absorbed from many sources – including from Rupert presumably.

Adults can also be amused by the puns which Bestall sometimes employs for his story titles – The Mare’s Nest, The Flying Sorcerer, the Blue Moon.  Others have pointed out the filmic and dynamic qualities of the illustrations – which work for both children and adults.  Ewen Mackenzie-Bowie has shown how the unique combination of rhymes and prose which accompany the stories provide a step ladder for children from being read to by adults through to reading themselves.[3]

But what now ?  How long can Rupert survive on the re-cycling of old stories ?  Or is that how it best should be ?  There is no imperative that Rupert should go on having new adventures forever.   His place in cultural history, children’s literature and graphic art is firmly established.  And, as noted, a new audience  – for whom everything is new – will of course continue to arrive.

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[1] The cover of the 1973 Rupert Annual – the common version.  See http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/gloucestershire/hi/people_and_places/arts_and_culture/newsid_8702000/8702628.stm

[2] In fact Tourtel occasionally gave Rupert a younger sister too, which makes four bears.

[3] Rupert – an innovative literary genre, Ewen Mackenzie-Bowie
https://www.icl.ac.nz/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/ICL-Journal-3-issue-1.pdf

 

See also : https://followersofrupertbear.co.uk/

Murder memorial stone at Botley Station

Behind the Victorian Fountain at the entrance to Botley Railway Station (so called – it is of course in Curdridge) there is a cast iron plaque mounted on cemented stones :

 

It reads :

This Stone is Erected to Perpetuate a Most Cruel Murder Commited on the Body of Thomas Webb a Poor Inhabitant of Swanmore on the 11th of February 1800 By John Diggins a Private Soldier in the Talbot Fencibles Whose remains are Gibbited on the adjoining Common

The Talbot – or Tarbet – Fencibles were barracked in Botley at the time. Private Diggins, with two other soldiers, had come upon Thomas Webb, a poor and elderly pedlar, somewhere near Kings Corner (Pinkmead) in Curdridge. They not only robbed him of what few shillings he had, but then – according to a contemporary newspaper report – stabbed him, threw him in a ditch and stamped on him. Despite his injuries, Webb was able to crawl to a nearby cottage and get help – including the removal from his body of six inches of bayonet by a local surgeon. He was also able to tell what had happened – before he died. Diggins was found guilty of the murder at Winchester Assizes and sentenced to be hanged. The other two soldiers were acquitted for lack of evidence. Diggins was hanged in Winchester and his body then gibbited – that is, hung to rot – on Curdridge Common, between the main road to Shedfield and Outlands Lane. Thomas Webb was buried in St Peter’s Church graveyard, Bishops Waltham.

Meanwhile, the stone referred to on the plaque is not the cemented stones on which the plaque itself is mounted, but the undistinguished stone, without inscription, which sits half buried behind it. This suggests that the plaque was a later addition, Victorian perhaps, by when local history had became a subject of much interest.

All this can be found in more detail in local historian Dennis Stokes’ Botley and Curdridge – A history of two Hampshire villages, published by the Botley and Curdridge Local History Society (2007) – http://www.botley.com/history-society

I became curious about the plaque when I came upon the following:

Hampshire Treasures, Volume 1 ( Winchester City District), Page 82 – Curdridge

Memorial Stone Site of murder. Culprit hanged on local gibbet, cast iron plaque removed to Portsmouth City Museum.     SU 520 130
1904 27

How can the plaque have been ‘removed’ to Portsmouth and yet still be present in Curdridge ?

I wrote to the Museum about it. Their reply was :

“The original plaque was donated to the Portsmouth City Museum before 1945 & is kept in storage there, although it has been used in a display at Southsea Castle. The plaque at Botley Station, therefore, must be a copy.”

Our plaque a copy ? Why, that practically makes it a forgery !

Or, perhaps, for some reason, two copies of the plaque were made at the same time? But why ?

History, it seems, is full of mystery . . .

Still, if anyone knows anything more about this matter, do let me know.

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Another account of the murder can be found at : https://georgianera.wordpress.com/2015/04/21/the-gruesome-murder-of-thomas-webb-1800-curdridge-hampshire/

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And yet another, brought to my attention by Rob Jeffries (see below) :

The Cruise of the Land-Yacht “Wanderer”; or Thirteen Hundred Miles In My Caravan, by William Gordon Stables, London 1892.
Extract from Chapter Twenty Seven.

Botley is one of the quietest, quaintest, and most unsophisticated wee villages ever the Wanderer rolled into . . . My attention was attracted to a large iron-lettered slab that hangs on the wall of the coffee-room of the Dolphin. The following is the inscription thereon:—

This Stone is Erected To Perpetuate a

Most Cruel Murder Committed on the Body

of Thos. Webb a Poor Inhabitant of Swanmore

on the 11th of Feb. 1800 by John Diggins

a Private Soldier in the Talbot Fencibles

Whose Remains are Gibbeted on the Adjoining Common.

And there doubtless John Diggins‟ body swung, and there his bones bleached and rattled till they fell asunder.

But the strange part of the story now has to be told; they had hanged the wrong man!

It is an ugly story altogether. Thus: two men (Fencibles) were drinking at a public-house, and going homewards late made a vow to murder the first man they met. Cruelly did they keep this vow, for an old man they encountered was at once put to the bayonet. Before going away from the body, however, the soldier who had done the deed managed to exchange bayonets with Diggins. The blood-stained instrument was therefore found in his scabbard, and he was tried and hanged. The real murderer confessed his crime twenty-one years afterwards, when on his deathbed.

So much for the Botley of long ago.

The iron slab, by the way, was found in the cellar of the Dolphin, and the flag of the Talbot Fencibles, strange to say, was found in the roof.

Children’s Games – Eeny meeny miney moe, eeny meeny macka racka

Playground rhymes.

For anyone brought up in an English-speaking playground, the books of Iona and Peter Opie are not to be missed. Their subject is the world of children’s play – songs, games and rhymes found in street and playground, passed from child to child, a lost world, half remembered, mostly forgotten, and hardly noticed by much too busy and serious adults. The success of their first book – “The Lore and Language of Schoolchildren” (1959) – or perhaps just the pleasure of watching children play – set the Opies off on a lifetime’s career of observing, collecting and writing about children’s play.

I asked my eight-year-old daughter[1] what she and her friends sang or played together at school in the playground, but this was evidently not a sufficiently sensible or interesting question. “Games”, she said, “You know…” It was not until I gave her an example – from the Opie’s book “The Singing Game” – that she came up with the following:

My boyfriend gave me an apple
My boyfriend gave me a pear
My boyfriend gave me a kiss on the lips
And threw me down the stairs
I gave him back his apple
I gave him back his pear
I gave him back his kiss on the lips
And threw him down the stairs
I threw him over China
I threw him over Spain
I threw him over Australia
And never saw him again.

This is a song or chant for a clapping game. The girls (these singing games are mostly performed by girls) stand face to face and clap against each other’s and their own hands in a set pattern in time with the beat of the song – as my daughter demonstrated as best she could, having only an inexpert adult – myself – to clap with.

The song is part of what the Opies record as “I am a pretty Dutch Girl“, which, they say, seems to have arrived in Britain in about 1959 from America and then “spread through the country like wildfire”. Clapping games themselves are much older, with records from Britain and the United States over the last one hundred years and more, but they apparently enjoyed a revival in Britain in the 1960’s as this and other American songs arrived.

Another `song’ my daughter chanted was this :

I had a little brother
His name was Tiny Tim
I put him in the bath tub
To see if he could swim
He drank up all the water
He ate up all the soap
He tried to eat the bath tub
But it wouldn’t go down his throat
In came the Doctor, in came the Nurse
In came the lady with the alligator purse
`Measles’ said the Doctor, `Mumps’ said the Nurse
`Pizza’ said the lady with the alligator purse
Out went the Doctor, out went the Nurse
Out went the lady with the alligator purse.

The first eight lines are identified by the Opies as coming from an early twentieth century bawdy song and the remainder as a game-song of American children from at least the 1920s. There, however, they sang of “a big black purse”. Wherever it came from, the “alligator purse” is a fine improvement in rhythm, even if the meaning remains utterly mysterious. Meanwhile, Steve Roud, another excellent student of children’s games[2], provides a version of these last lines collected in London in 1907, only there, its not a lady that comes in, but the devil !

The only other clapping song my daughter came up with is recorded by the Opies under “Less Popular Clapping Songs” without comment (and without the curious first four lines):

In Bombay, in the land of Alaska,
Far away, in Bombay
Uncle Duffy is puffing his pipe
Puff puff, puff puff
All the girls in Spain
Wash their knickers in champagne
And the boys in France
Do the belly wobble dance
And the dance they do
Is enough to tie a shoe
And the shoe they tie
Is enough to tell a lie
And the lie they tell
Is enough to ring a bell
And the bell they ring
Goes : Dingalingaling!

Perhaps, like others, this had a bawdy origin somewhere, or maybe its just the result of childish wit and delight in language.

Another of my daughter’s rhymes ran :

I went to a Chinese restaurant
To buy a loaf of bread
I gave the man a five-pound note
And this is what he said:
“My – name – is
Hong Kong fuey
Diddle-aye-do-ee
Ice cream cornet
Fish and chips.”

Alternatively, the last four lines can go:

Elvis Presley
Girls are sexy
Sitting in the back seat
Drinking Pepsi
Having a baby
Calling it daisy
Come and join the fun fun fun!

These lines are obviously no older than the 1960’s and may be American. The first four lines – concerning a Chinese restaurant (or laundry) – are reported by the Opies from the 1950s, when they were often used as an introduction to a counting-out rhyme – that is, for de-selecting from a group until the last person becomes `it’ or `he’ or ‘on’, in a chasing game for example. In that guise the rhyme continued with whatever was the local and current form of “Chinese counting” – something along the lines of:

Eeny meeny macka racka
Ooray dominacker
Dominacker chikaracker
Om pom push!

I ‘invented’ that one. There are hundreds like it, more or less similar, and that is my half-remembered and approximate version of what we chanted many years ago. I have the feeling that there was a “lollipopper” in there somewhere too[3].  A female friend who was at primary school in Middlesex in the early to mid nineteen-sixties remembered it without a moment’s hesitation, and with the lollipopper too:

Eeny meeny macka racka
Rare-rye dominacker
Chickenpokker lollippopper
Om pom push!

Another (male) friend, who was at primary school in southern Hampshire in the early nineteen seventies, also knew it – but not to recite, because it had been strictly a girl’s rhyme, which they used in skipping games. So too my male, eighty year-old neighbour who was brought up in Woolston (Southampton) in the 1930s/early 1940s, who only knew it by repute and not to recite : “it was a girl’s game”.

My daughter had never heard of anything like it. She had heard of “Eeny meeny miney mo”, but she didn’t know how it went after that – which is, perhaps, an indication of some success in efforts to change old attitudes – as is the fact that among those who do know it the offending word has now been replaced by ‘tiger’, ‘tigger’ or similar.

In “Children’s Games in Street and Playground” (1969) the Opies conclude that while the Eeny meeny macka racka ‘gibberish’ rhyme itself is of no great antiquity (they found no records of it before the 1920s), its origins and those of similar rhymes – especially those beginning Inty minti, Eenty teenty or Zeenty teenty instead – are old – possibly very old. The connection has been made between at least some of these rhymes and the “Shepherd’s Score”, a traditional way of counting sheep, fish, stitches, and so on, in a number of counties in the north of England. The Opies found children in Keswick (in Cumbria) still using this method in their counting out. The Shepherd’s Score in turn has been traced, speculatively, to medieval welsh drovers; to still more ancient Celts driven to the hills by invading Anglo-Saxons; or, as the Opies prefer, to the ancient British tongue of Cumbria.

This seems an ambitious claim at first glance, until you get to numbers three and four in the Shepherd’s Score. Here is the beginning of a counting-out rhyme from Edinburgh (for some reason Scotland seems to be particularly rich in this form of the rhyme) : Inty, tinty, tethery, methery [4]. Here are the first four numbers of the traditional counting system used by the children from Keswick : Yan, Tan, Tethera, Methera – which is identical to the Shepherd’s Score reported, for example, from the Derbyshire Dales, and very similar to those from elsewhere [5]. The similarity of these otherwise peculiar and unfamiliar words is striking. And there are more. The earliest of this family of rhymes found by the Opies is this from 1820 :

                Zinty, tinti
                Tethera, methera
                Bumfa, litera
               Hover, dover
               Dicket, dicket
               . . . [6]

The Shepherd’s Score, meanwhile, includes bunfit/bumfit (15), lethera (7), hothera (8), dovera (9) and dick/dik (10)[7]. Also noteworthy is that both the Shepherd’s Score and the gibberish rhyme words for five are usually something starting with a plosive ‘p’, such as pimp or pump or push. As the Opies note, the Shepherd’s Score seems to be the ‘starting point, or inspiration, or source of occasional words’ of various versions of the children’s rhyme.  However, while a connection between the Shepherd’s Score and some versions of counting- out rhymes does not seem to have been entirely dismissed, the idea that the Score itself is of a great vintage is no longer respectable. Steve Roud summarises the scholarly situation thus :

‘Unfortunately . . . there is no evidence to support the assumption that the ‘shepherd’s score’ is of great age. The earliest mention of it in Britain is about 1745. In fact, in the opinion of many post-war experts, internal linguistic evidence, such as these numeral’s affinity with modern rather than old Welsh, demonstrates that they were introduced into the areas they were found a great deal later than the period of Anglo-Saxon settlement.’ [8]

In other words (I think), the Score probably arrived with modern Welsh speakers moving into England during the 18th Century.

Roud’s scepticism, meanwhile, is well trumped by Michael Barry[9]. In frustration at the unknowability of the origins of the Shepherd’s Score, he very nearly argues that it was only after folklorists started collecting and disseminating versions of the Score that they began to be known, but only ever second-hand and by repute. That is, no one is ever found who actually uses such a Score – for counting sheep, stitches, fish, or whatever ![10]

Roud’s summary of the scholarly situation is disappointing of course. However, while I am not qualified to comment on the linguistic evidence, I am not convinced that the lack of mention before 1745 is a clincher. A great deal of folk culture was not recorded before 1745. In fact most of what we know was not written down until the nineteenth century when collecting folklore and customs became fashionable.

Similarly, Roud also seems to suggest that counting-out rhymes are not so old either, on the grounds that the earliest recorded example is from 1759 (or possibly 1611 in France)[11]. On the one hand, the fact that childhood was, for most, a very different experience before formal education arrived – lots of work and no ‘rithmatic – could support Roud’s suggestion. But on the other, to suggest that children neither played together nor knew how to count even to five before the eighteenth century seems unlikely. It seems to me much more likely that we simply have no records.

But to return to the ‘gibberish rhyme’, these examples are from an on-line exchange on Mudcat.org :[12]

From Salford in the 1930s, where my mum lived as a girl, and passed on to me.

Eeny meeny mackeracka
Rare eye dummeracka
Chickeracka rare eye
Om pom push

My great uncle Albert who lived from 1902-1979 used to tell me

Eeni meeni mackeraca er rye dominacka chicka packa lullapacka rum pum push

From my nan born in 1920s west London

Eeny meeny mackaracka
Rare rye dominacka
Chickalacka lollipoppa
Om Pom push

These examples support the Opie’s report that they could not find examples of the ‘gibberish rhyme’ before the 1920s. However, it depends what you’re looking for. They specifically say that ‘Eenie, meenie, macca, racka’ was not known to Bolton, the author of one of the first collections of children’s counting-out rhymes, in 1888. But the following was known to Bolton :

Eenie, Meenie, Tipsy, toe;
Olla bolla Domino,
Okka, Pokka dominocha,
Hy! Pon! Tush![13]

It is clearly the `same’ rhyme, even though it lacks the macka racka. So the ‘gibberish’ is at least as old as the 1880s.[14]

Eeny meeny miny moe.

Historically speaking, the most well-known version of the eeny meeny family of rhymes is probably :

Eeny meeny miny moe
Catch a n—– by his toe
If he hollers let him go
Eeny meeny miney moe

As noted earlier, the offensive word has been replaced over time by tiger or tigger, or some-such. This seems to have happened during the 50s in the States and in the 70s in the UK, presumably reflecting the advance of awareness of racism in each country. Meanwhile, the rhyme is first reported from the late 19th Century, by Bolton again, who suggested that it probably originated in America. [15] The Opies agree, given the vocabulary.

There is also a theory that the original origin of “Eeny meeny miny moe” and possibly of the mention of a black person too, is from the Portugese/West African Creole language of the islands of São Tomé and Principe, which lie off the West coast of equatorial Africa. The language is known as São Tomense. [16] Derek Bickerton notes the following: in São Tomense, ine is used to turn the next word into a plural; the next word (of the rhyme) is mina, which means child – therefore, children. Meanwhile, mana means sister and mu means my. In other words, ine mina mana mu is São Tomense for my sister’s children !  Bickerton also notes, in support of the theory, that we have a children’s rhyme on the one hand and a reference to children on the other; a reference to a black person in the rhyme and a language spoken by black people – presumably including at least some black slaves in 18th or early 19th Century America. He then suggests that, somewhere in the US, children already familiar with Score-derived counting-out rhymes heard the São Tomense expression, noticed the resemblance and proceeded to incorporate the new words into a counting-out rhyme. He also confesses that he has no evidence to back this history up, but concludes that an Afro-Creole source for eeeny meeny miney mo `would seem to be at least as convincing as a Celtic one.’

Or possibly not. The only other writer I can find picking up on this theory is the Carribbean poet, novelist, and local creole language advocate, Frank Martinus Arion. Arion is from the Dutch Antilles, and his topic is a creole known as Guene. Having repeated Bickerton’s analysis of the São Tomense expression (without acknowledgement), and noting that a creole word maina means to quiet down, he concludes that the real meaning of the eeny meeny rhyme is in fact : “Children quiet down/You have to go to bed now/It is finished. Look at this whip” ! This would have been used by a – probably black – nanny to the children in her charge. [17]

And that is not all. Arion is a Dutch speaker. According to a Dutch contributor to the Mudcat.org thread mentioned above, he also discusses the well know Dutch version of the eeny meeny rhyme, also used for counting-out.[18] It goes like this :

Iene miene mutte      [ Eena meena mutte
Tien pond grutten       Ten pounds of groats
Tien pond kaas            Ten pounds of cheese
Iene miene mutte       Eena meena mutte
Is de baas
             Is the boss]        

Arion then reports a creole – probably São Tomense – song, sung by black slaves, which goes (or went) like this :

Iene miene muito      
Tempo de n’grutta
Tempo de n’kasala
Iene miene muito
Es de baixe.

Arion’s analysis of this rhyme goes like this: Iene is a pluralizer; miene is from the Portuguese word for girl, menina; muito is the Portuguese word for much/ many; tempo means time; n’grutta means to make love; kasala comes from the Portuguese casar se, to marry; baixa is the Portuguese word for down or below.  So the translation of the song into English would be :

Many girls.         
Time to make love
Time to marry
Many girls
Down there below.

Male slaves were put on the upper decks, the women below on the lower decks.

One has to note that as an advocate for the contribution of West African-origin creoles to Western culture, Arion’s arguments may be somewhat motivated.

Nonetheless, it’s a great story.

Eeny meeny . . .

It is time now to return to basics, that is, to eeny and meeny. Whatever contribution Shepherd’s Scores or West African slaves may or may not have made to the eeny meeny family of rhymes, it is noteworthy that a great many of the rhymes begin with these two words, or versions thereof. And It is also the case that these rhymes are usually used by children for counting-out. As we have seen from the Dutch example above, the rhyme is not confined to English speakers, and similar beginnings are to be found in German (including by Bolton), Danish, Norwegian and elsewhere[19].

It is clear enough that eeny is simply a version of one – een in Dutch, ein in German, aan in old English, eena in a Shepherd’s Score from North Yorkshire[20], oan in Scottish Gaelic, un in Welsh. The addition of the y, that is, the ee sound, would then be just a bit of fun, playing with sounds, as in the more obvious onery, twoery way of counting (which was the most common way in Bolton’s day). Meeny would then be simply a fun rhyme to follow.  But we can go on : miney and mo alliterate with meeny; similarly, the  n occupies the same position and internally alliterates in eeny, meeny and miney ; the vowels go ee i o, which form a natural series produced from the front to the back of the mouth (as in fee, fi, fo fum, or ee eye o). David Rubin and colleagues point out these and other structural-linguistic features to explain how children manage to remember these rhymes.[21] My point is that they also help to explain why they are so popular and persistent. The fact is, they are fun !

It seems reasonable to conclude that the eeny meeny family of rhymes may have multiple sources. It certainly has multiple traditions and perhaps multiple occasions of semi-independent invention, when the need for a means of counting-out was (and is) required. Above all, it is the result of generations of children in countless playgrounds delighting in playing with the musicality of language – and with nonsense.

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While counting-out rhymes are common to both boys and girls, clapping games and their songs, as mentioned above, are generally girls’ games. Perhaps that’s why I recognised none of the songs in the Opie’s singing games book, and none of my daughter’s. One game we used to play, however, was for the boys only – the utterly serious game of flick cards . . .

 

  1. This was in 1994. She had attended Ridgemead Primary School, Bishops Waltham, in Hampshire, England.

  2. Roud, Steve The Lore of the Playground: One hundred years of children’s games, rhymes and traditions, Random House, London, 2010, p169

  3. I was at Eastwick Primary School, Great Bookham, Surrey, England, from 1960 to 1966.

  4. http://www.electricscotland.com/kids/bairns/page2.htm

  5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yan_tan_tethera

  6. ‘The Chatterings of the Pica’, Charles Taylor,1820, described as being old.

  7. http://stancarey.wordpress.com/2013/11/27/yan-tan-tethera-pethera-pimp-an-old-system-for-counting-sheep/

  8. Roud, Steve The Lore of the Playground: One hundred years of children’s games, rhymes and traditions, Random House, London, 2010, p354. NOTE : I began this piece recommending the Opies’ work. I would now also recommend Steve Roud’s book, which is much shorter and covers everything you need to know.

  9. Traditional Enumeration in the North Country, Michael Barry, Folk Life, Volume 7, Issue 1 (01 January 1969), pp. 75-91

  10. See also : Major and Minor Chronotopes in a Specialized Counting System, Donald N Anderson, Journal of Linguistic Anthropology, Vol. 21, Issue 1, pp. 124–141, ISSN 1055-1360, EISSN 1548-1395. © 2011 by the American Anthropological Association. https://www.academia.edu/948046/Major_and_Minor_Chronotopes_in_a_Specialized_Counting_System

  11. Roud, ibid

  12. http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=47148#701914

  13. Bolton, Henry Carrington, The Counting-out Rhymes of Children: Their Antiquity, Origin, and Wide Distribution. New York: D. Appleton & Co. (1888).

  14. Incidentally, as I recall, we used parts of the rhyme as a rousing chant in Cubs/Scouts in the 1960s – led by adults – much in the manner of the contemporary All Blacks’ Maori-style chant:

    Dominakka chikkarakka, Dominakka chikkarakka, Dominakka chikkarakkaOm pom push ! 

  15. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eeny,_meeny,_miny,_moe

  16. An Afro-Creole Origin for Eena meena Mina Mo, Derek Bikerton, American Speech, Vol. 57, No. 3 (Autumn 1982), Duke University Press. www.jstor.org/stable/454870; p227

  17. The value of Guene for folklore and literary culture, Frank Martinus Arion, in A History of Literature in the Caribbean: English- and Dutch-speaking countries, Albert James Arnold, Julio Rodríguez-Luis, J. Michael Dash, John Benjamins Publishing, Jan 1, 2001, p 415-419

  18. My research became complicated here. The Mudcat.org contributor gives no reference other than to say she found the information on Wikipedia. I have been unable to do so, even in the Dutch version. Meanwhile it is possible that the material is to be found in the Arion paper referenced immediately above. However, I do not have access to the complete paper to confirm this.

  19. Opies 1969

  20. http://www.yorkshiredialect.com/celtlang.htm

  21. Children’s memory for counting-out rhymes: A cross-language comparison, David C Rubin, Violeta Ciobanu, William Langston, Psychonomic Bulletin and Review 1997, 4(3). 421-424

 

 

 

Flick cards

By the early 1960s, cigarette cards had long gone – ended by the austerities of the War – but tea cards had replaced them. The games that my father used to play with cigarette cards, we learned to play from our older schoolmates with the new tea cards – or, more correctly, trade cards. We collected them avidly, and won and lost great fortunes daily playing the game of flick cards.

Two boys (only boys) would stand some eight feet or so from a playground wall, each armed with a handful of cards. A card was held between two fingers and then launched towards the wall, by each player in turn, by means of a quick flick of the wrist. There were two versions of the game. The object of one was to get your card to land on another already lying on the ground. The first player to achieve this won all the cards previously thrown. In the other – known as ‘Death’ – the aim was to knock down two or more cards that had been lent against the wall. The player that toppled the last card was the winner and, again, took all the cards already thrown.

‘Death’ called for accuracy and a strong wrist, but in terms of rules was uncomplicated. In the other game, however, as with many children’s games, the simple scenario of the one card landing on another was qualified by a number of arcane requirements. Should a card overlap another by only its merest edge – defined by the thin white border surrounding the card’s illustration – this was called “tipses” and did not count. All ambiguous overlaps were anxiously examined at close quarters. If necessary, spectators would adjudicate. If the case was judged to be “tipses” the game continued. Should a card stall in mid flight and flutter down onto another, this was called “flutters” and was also invalid. So too was “undies”, where a card slid beneath another on landing. With these rules, vast numbers of cards could accumulate, and tension intensify, before at last the prize was won.

These tea cards were issued by a range of companies but circulation was dominated by Brooke Bond. At that time, their cards were almost wholly devoted to wildlife subjects. They began in 1954 with “British Birds” and thereafter produced a series or two each year, covering birds, wild flowers, butterflies, fish and animals from Britain and across the world. By the time we started collecting, probably in 1963 or ‘64, cards from the very first series were hardly to be found – occasional and somewhat mysterious relics of some ancient past. However, subsequent sets were still in circulation and new sets kept arriving, providing fodder for our boyish kleptomania as well as for our effortlessly assimilative young minds.

Card swapping, Eastwick Primary School, Great Bookham, Surrey, 1966.

I inherited an interest in wildlife from my parents, but there is  no doubt that Brooke Bond’s tea cards fed that interest and caused it to grow and become knowledgeable. By the age of ten I not only knew my British birds – those illustrated in “Bird Portraits” (1957) and “Wild Birds in Britain” (1965) at any rate – and my butterflies (“British Butterflies”, 1963) and wild animals (“British Widllife”, 1958) – but I was also familiar with the wild animals of Africa and Asia (“African Wildlife”, 1961; “Asian wildlife”, 1962), exotic birds (“Tropical Birds”, 1961) and endangered species from across the world (“Wildlife in Danger”, 1963).

All these sets were explicitly “issued in the interests of education”, according to the backs of the albums in which we stuck them, and they clearly served their intended purpose. It’s a pity then that although Brooke Bond continued to issue picture cards, they later stooped to trivia – cartoon turtles for example, or anthropormorphised chimpanzees – offered, presumably, in the interests of increasing sales.

To be fair, Brooke Bond continued to return to wildlife subjects, and to other educational topics, including in collaboration with the World Wildlife Fund, as they first did with “Wildlife in Danger”. What they did not do, however, was to maintain the pictorial quality of the earlier sets, a feature which was at least as important as the information they conveyed in catching and keeping our interest. Between 1957 and 1966 those early sets were more often than not illustrated by C.F. Tunicliffe, whose both naturalistic and visually attractive style of painting was perfect for our unsophisticated eye – and our desire for facts. Some of his illustrations still rank among the finest examples of wildlife art, those for “Bird Portraits” in particular – the teal leaping from the water; the house sparrow in flight; the barn owl floating cream and white against the dusk :

   

Tunicliffe’s work seems to have established a house style during those years, so that when other artists were brought in – EV Petts for “Freshwater Fish” (1960); Richard Ward for two butterfly series (“British Butterflies”, 1963 and “Butterflies of the World”, 1964) – the cards remained instantly recognisable as coming from Brooke Bond.

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I rediscovered how much I had learnt as a child, how many animals and birds had become familiar to me through collecting Brooke Bond’s tea cards, many years later. I was living in South India and I went with a friend to visit the Periyar Wildlife Sanctuary in the southern state of Kerala. The Sanctuary is set in the forests of the great chain of the Western Ghat mountains, centred around a long and many fingered lake created by the damming of the Periyar River.

We rode up into the hills by bus and then walked from the village into the reserve. The narrow road ran between thick forest on one side and the lake on the other. In the water, or perched on grey stumps of drowned trees with wings held wide to dry in the sun, were thin, cormorant-like birds. I knew at once that they were darters (“Tropical Birds”, 1961). They are not the most beautiful of birds – snakelike, ragged, prehistoric – but they were old familiars and a thrill to see for the first time in the feather.

Shortly afterwards I spotted an animal moving in the trees above us, a brown, cream and enormous squirrel – the Indian Giant Squirrel (“Asian Wildlife”, 1962) – providing for a moment an almost exact image of Tunicliffe’s illustration, before it turned and made off, heavily, through the foliage.

A few yards further on a herd of wild pigs burst out of the long grass and hurried across the road, long snouted and round bellied – indistinguishable in fact from the domestic Indian pig which roots and wallows in every village ditch. However, these were wild and also familiar  from “Asian Wildlife”.

  

The next day we went out onto the lake in a motor launch, together with other visitors to the reserve, and my private adventure continued. There were many more darters, and more wild pigs along the shore. Then we spied a dark line of animals making their way slowly across a hillside, too distant for a satisfactory view even through my binoculars, but instantly recognised anyway. These were Gaur, the largest member of the ox family.

We could not have imagined a closer view of the wild elephants we came upon next. Seeing them at the edge of the lake, the helmsman brought the launch in close. While a huge bull led his herd unhurriedly away into the forest, two cows and a calf plunged into the water towards us. They stood knee deep – or in the case of the calf, up to its chin – and proceeded to threaten us by swaying their great heads and splashing on the water with their trunks, making their indignation at our intrusion  clear. Elephants, of course, are hardly unfamiliar even to those who have never collected Brook Bond tea cards. Nonetheless, the Asiatic Elephant is there among them.

I have continued to meet old friends in the wild in India ever since: Chittal, or Spotted Deer; Nilgai antelope, or Blue Bull; a Tiger in the scrub forest of Ranthambore in Rajasthan; Blackbuck; a Gaur bull, huge and unhurried in the headlights of our jeep, in Andhra Pradesh; Hanuman Langurs, named after the monkey-god hero of the Hindu epic poem the Ramayana; Giant Fruit Bats hung like peculiar fruits by day or rowing soundlessly overhead at dusk; and Mongooses in a back garden in Madras city.

   

 Not only animals, but tropical birds as well: the fairy bluebird, the painted snipe and the orange (or scarlet) minivet, the males black and bright red, the females black and brilliant yellow.

   

I still have my collection of Brook Bond tea cards, won so many years ago, or bargained for “swops”. I add to it occasionally, when an album turns up in a charity shop or via e-bay.  And even now, here in the UK, there are a number of long familiar birds and animals which I have yet to meet – the Natterjack Toad, the Purple Emperor butterfly and the ring ouzel for example.  If and when I do happen upon them, I will, of course, recognise them at once with a very special delight.

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Eastwick Primary School, Great Bookham, Surrey, in the 1960s

Eastwick Badge   Hello Everybody –  Welcome to these Eastwick County Primary School pages. I was a pupil there from 1960 to ’66. This page is available as a home for photos and memories of those years.  For example :


(This was not my badge by the way)

Some of the photos here, and others, can also be found at :

https://www.leatherheadlocalhistory.org.uk/bookhamhistory/indexeastwickjs.html

Many thanks to the LLH for hosting this material, and to Ali Kelman who collected it in the first place and arranged for it to be transferred when the School web site no longer had a space for it.

If you have any photos or other material from Eastwick in the 1960s I would be happy to receive copies and post them here.

I would especially like to see any photos you may have from the photo project that was conducted in the first half of 1966 ( I think) by Mrs Harrowell, a part time teacher, as I recall, possibly incorrectly. 

Any comments you may have (as well as photos!) would be very welcome.

Kevan.

PS  These pages are growing and growing as I keep receiving communications from former Eastwickians, known and previously unknown.  Wonderful !

News !

May 2025 – Another get-together at the Old Windsor Castle, Little Bookham.

Front right is our classmate Laurence (Laurie) Robinson – over from Australia where he has lived for many years.  His visit to the UK was a great excuse to get us all together again.  Laurie’s brother Mike is third down on the left.  Third down on the right is Diana (n.Baxter) who we were all meeting again for the first time.  Jess Perkins sits just beyond her.

Fifth on the right is Elaine Woodcraft (n. Baker), younger sister of our classmate Alan Baker.  Alan died  at the far too young age of 34.  We remembered him, his friendship – and his creative talents.  Bob remembered how Alan taught him how to use colour in his art work.  I remembered his skill at model building.  We used to cycle to school and back together.  We also played in the school football team together.

 

May 2023 – Eastwick Schools May Fair

Linda, Joy and I met up at Eastwick at the Spring Fair (Vasu came along with me as official photographer).  Unlike our last visit, we were not able to get inside – we could only peer through the windows.  We couldn’t even obtain access to the old playground.  The whole school is now surrounded by steel fencing and padlocked gates – to keep the children in I presume.  The Wall from the top of the field to the corner of the playground has gone, replaced by a curiously tall mesh fence.  The wall along the bottom of the playground remains, though reduced to half height.  It also sports a fine mural rather than painted wickets and circular targets.  The great redwood tree around which we once played remains, as you can see.  Joy and I recalled how we once concocted ‘perfume’ and ‘itching powder’ below it or in the crevices of its softly fissured bark.  I recalled that I once climbed to the top of it – when there was no one about to stop me.

Kevan
 
 
 
 
 
 

Hi everyone,

A few of us made it to the Fair [i.e. the Eastwick May fair 2018] and despite it raining from the moment we arrived it was an interesting visit.  We managed to have a look around inside and spent some time remembering classes and teachers.  We were pleased to see that the House names remain the same – although sadly the brick wall along the side of the field has gone and the playground has been built on – but I don’t expect they are allowed to play Kiss Chase now anyway!

All the best,

Joy xx

Eastwick 1 May 2018.jpg

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Eastwick 3 May 2018.jpg

 

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Hi Everyone

Sorry I missed it, unavoidable, but see you next time. Very sad that ‘The Wall’ has gone. (Speaking of which, who knew that Roger Waters of Pink Floyd was born in Great Bookham – a bit before our time, in 1943?).

I’ve always been intrigued by the remnants of ‘the big house’ which existed before the school and found this pic:

 

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Wikipedia says “Eastwick Park, a beautiful manor in the village, was lost in 1958. The house stood within the area of roads now known as the ‘Eastwick area’, and its very large private estate included Great Bookham Commons, which were saved by the village and given to the National Trust. Since being used as a private house, the manor was used by Canadian military in the second world war, and was also a school called Southey Hall, before being demolished for redevelopment. The original gates to the house stand just west of Eastwick Park Avenue on Lower Road.” I recall my dad saying how the Canadian army used the school as a training ground and how they trashed the house so badly it had to be demolished.

Another page says “Eastwick Park was built by the French Huguenot architect Nicholas Dubois (c. 1665–1735) between 1726 and 1728 for Sir Conyers Darcy and his wife,[1] Elizabeth, daughter of John Rotherham of Much Waltham, Essex and the recent widow of Thomas Howard, 6th Lord Howard of Effingham.[2] In 1801 James Lawrell bought Eastwick Park from Richard Howard, the 4th and last Earl of Effingham (of the first creation). Eastwick Park then passed through a number of different owners before housing Southey Hall Boys Preparatory School from 1924 until 1954 (during World War II the boys were evacuated to Devon and Eastwick Park was turned into accommodation for Canadian soldiers). The house was empty from 1954 until 1958 when was demolished to make way for housing and Eastwick County Primary School (which has since been renamed Eastwick Junior School).

In our time I remember a couple of boys found live-round bullets and a few years earlier someone found a live hand-grenade. Who remembers the black timber shed on the way to the old farmer’s place? Apart from the wall, I think all that remains of the original park estate is the brick stable block (used to be our sports changing rooms, horrid and cold) and any exotic trees that still survive.

Cheers

Bob

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A 1966 class reunion was held on the 16th September 2017 at the Windsor Castle pub in Little Bookham.  Joy Spencer/Taylor, Linda Davies/Scrase,  Martin Claytor, Bob Medland, Chris Scriven,  Ian White and Kevan Bundell attended.  Jessica Perkins couldn’t make it, but sent her greetings.

Miss Bayley, and others, were fondly remembered.  Photos were perused and people identified (see below).  The contents of Kevan’s and Bob’s News Books were amusingly shared.   We all had a jolly good time.

We vowed to gather again at the next Eastwick School Fête/Fair in 2018.  We also agreed to track down other classmates and invite them to join us there.  If you are one of them, do send me an e-mail.  We would all love to see you again.

Kevan  –  kbundell@yahoo.co.uk

 

1965/6


The Netball Team
Front : Suzanne Western, Hazel Smulders, Jaquie Russell-Bates, Linda Davies
Back :  Elizabeth Dalgairns, Joanna Woods, Mrs Cole (Coach and School Secretary), Lesley Rice


Gardening
l to r :  Kevan Bundell, Ian White, Roger Doswell, Martin Claytor,
Gregory Able, Robbie Medland


Maths lesson
f. Alan Baker, Roger Doswell  m.  Mary Samms, Nicholas Golby, Martin Skinner,
Simon Mitchell b. Suzanne Western (with back towards camera), Kevan Bundell, Martin Claytor

Football Team 1965 – b. -Christopher Glaum, Robert Muirhead,  ?
m. – Ian White, Martin Claytor, Gregory Able, Paul Hiscutt, Kevan Bundell
f. – Ian Cook ,  Alan Baker.


School dinner – featuring Nicky Carter (with the fork) and Avril Bundell (with the Alice Band), both aged 5.
Yvonne Tomlins and Hazel Smoulders are in charge of the table behind.


Swopping cards – with a fine display of Eastwick blazers (and badge), raincoats and caps.  And the playground wall.  Left to right : Ivor Bundell, Kyle Ingram? (short hair), Bill Sheldon, Ian Beasley, Johnnie Aldous, David Jones.


Class Play – Clare Milne,  ?  , Tony Stanton, unidentified legs . . .

Tony’s family moved to Australia in the late 60s.  The persons that bought their house told me (in ’73) that they had heard that Tony may have died in an accident.  I can believe it.  He was a dare-devil.  Nonetheless, I would happy to hear from anyone that it wasn’t true.

Here’s a photo from Diana n. Baxter :

From the left and going clockwise :  Yvonne, Joanna, Diana, Elizabeth, Jackie, Linda, Joy and Hazel.

 

1962 ?

(Photo from Bob Medland)

b.  Avril Derbyshire, Janice Ashby, Linda Davies, Arthur Evans, Jessica Perkins, Alan Baker, Charles Richardson,  Nicholas Golby, Simon Mitchell
m.  ?   Joy Spencer, Ian White,  Phillip Barnes, Julia Heath, Hazel Smulders, Diana Baxter, Elizabeth Dalgairns, Michael Baker, Christopher Scriven, Robert Muirhead, Rona Stockwell.
f.  Linda Bannister, Marion Taylor, Amanda Webber, Roger Doswell, Robbie Medland,  ?  ,   ?  ,  ? ,  ? , Jonathan Stevens.

Note that Elizabeth has seen something shocking going on behind the photographer.  Diana has noticed it too and shut her eyes – quite properly.  Jessica, meanwhile, has seen it and is still looking !

1965/66

(Photo from Martin Claytor)

Miss Bayley’s Class 1965/6

b. – Mr Taylor, Robbie Medland, Roger Doswell, Hazel Smulders, Joanna Woods, Elizabeth Dalgairns, Avril Derbyshire, Yvonne Tomlins, Diana Baxter, Jennifer Mountain.
m. – Ian White, Paul Hiscott, Mark White, Laurence Robinson, Kevan Bundell, Alan Baker, Gregory Abel, Martin Claytor, Michael Baker, Miss Bayley
f. – Julie Dowden, Julia Heath, Jessica Perkins, Julia Gardner, Mary Samms,  Joy Spencer, Hilary Capeling, Linda Davies, Jackie Russell-Bates, Mary Sturgeon, Lynne Parkinson, Suzanne Weston, Carolyn Taylor.


Miss Lorna Bayley

Miss Bayley joined the staff of Eastwick Primary School, I calculate, sometime in 1963/4. I remember her arrival. Suddenly things began to change in our morning school assembly. There were new ideas, new components, creative changes.

She taught my older brother Arnold in his last year at Eastwick in ‘63/4. She became my class teacher in September ’64, and remained so for two years until I left in July 1966.

She had a one-eyed Song Thrush in her garden called Nelson.

She introduced a maths-teaching tool called Colour Factor which was very modern but which I totally failed to comprehend.

It was the time of the Tokyo Olympics. She set maths questions on the board and a race to answer them, awarding Gold, Silver and Bronze stars to the winners . . . I remained starless.

However, she also got us boys gardening (photo above – the girls were busy dressmaking I think) – and she put up a bird table outside the classroom window. This was pioneering stuff. At this time feeding the birds mostly meant throwing crusts of bread out in the back garden or hanging up bacon-rind. She bought proper bird feed. She put up large RSPB bird identification charts on the classroom wall and Robbie Medland and I competed to identify each bird (Robbie always won). We thereby came to know birds which we had never actually seen – and many which I have still not seen.

Miss Bayley also encouraged my artistic leanings – drawing and painting animals and birds. She even set me up with a one-boy show of my work on the corridor wall.

She paid for me to join the RSPB, and continued to pay my subscription for some years after I had left Eastwick and moved away. We corresponded during that time, until I grew into a teenager and probably just stopped writing any more.

I did meet her once during those few years, at an Eastwick School fete in 1968 or ’69. By this time I had been growing for a couple or so years. I towered above her.  As the photo above shows, she was really very short, only I hadn’t noticed when I was short too. Now I was an awkward teenager. I don’t know what I said to her. I hope I thanked her for being so very good to me.

 

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The Tumbling Team, 1960 :

 

Back row: David Pody, Trevor Storey, Richard Bryan, Mr Taylor, Robert Francis, Paul Guttridge, Anthony Rowley
Front row: Mary Scoble, me, Geraldine Scoble  (Names supplied by Maureen Argyle nee McConnell).
 


I think that must be the great sycamore in the background.

I didn’t know any of the 1960 Tumbling Team, I only remember that from the time I joined Eastwick (in 1960) I watched each year’s team perform at the school’s Summer Fete and yearned to be part of their fantastic gymnastics.  What I loved most was their quick-fire sliding across dining tables in alternate directions routine.   Mr Taylor was the coach.  The team members were selected from the top class only.  I finally reached the top class – in September 1965.  Mr Taylor asked for volunteers.  I volunteered.  We had our first  session in the school hall.

Tragically, that first session turned out also to be our last.

I was (still am !) devastated.

Perhaps Mr Taylor was by then too busy being Headmaster to find the time for training a Tumbling Team.  (I also recall that, by then, he no longer entertained us with the occasional Brer Rabbit story in morning Assembly).  Who knows ?

I could probably have been an Olympic gymnast if only there had been an Eastwick Tumbling Team in 1965/6.

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Bob Medland sent me some pages from his Autograph book of 1966.  You may have to turn upside down to read some of them :

 

 

1965

Daily Mail (June’65) :   Jackie Russel-Bates, Linda Davies, ? ,  ? , Paul Hiscutt ? , Michael Baker, Martin Claytor, Diana Baxter ? , Laurence Robinson.

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Cubs and Scouts (1964 ?)

A number of us were members of the 2nd Bookham Cubs and Scouts, together with others from Bookham Primary School :

Row 1 (top) :  ? , Harold Franklin, ? , ‘Akela’ Mr Fournier, ‘Chip’ Bob Mills.
Row 2 :  4.  ‘Bagera’ Mrs Bellet, 6. Mr Bellet ? , 8. GSM Mr Tarrington (‘Tarry’) , 9.  Mr Keeble, 10. ‘Skip’ Jim Bundell, 11.  David Stockwell ?
Row 3 :  3.  Geoffrey Weiss ?
Row 4 :  4.  Andy Franklin, 5.  Simon Mitchell, 6. Kevan Bundell, 8. Alan Baker
Row 5 : 1. Graham Smith, 3.  Christopher Glaum, 6.  Martin George, 7.  Stephen Taylor, 8. Ivor Bundell

Thanks to Graham Smith for sending me this photo.

Please name more names !

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Eastwick News – 1965

 

Featuring contributions – poems, fiction, reports – from : Ivor Bundell, Susanne Westacott, Rona Stockwell, Alan Baker, Jean Harrowell, Louise Berry, Ian White, Simon Wright, Alan Buckland, Hazel Smulders, Anne Hart,Sheila Roddon, Jessica Perkins, Kevin Stedeford, Louise Berry, Roger Doswell and Linda Davies.

I rather think it may have been the first of only one . . .

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The photos below, from the late 50s/early 60s, were sent to me by Peter Bayfield, who writes :

We moved to Bookham when I was 5 years old in 1956. Initially I went to Bookham Primary School. Then when Eastwick was opened I was moved there, so probably around 1957/8. That first picture was taken in those very early days probably about 1958/9. No uniform yet. I am front row third from the left maybe aged about 7 or 8. I think that’s before the main school building was built and you can see the wooden classroom building in the background. I remember many classes with Mrs Teague in the old wooden hut that you can just see in the right of the picture.

The second picture (I’m back row last on the right) would have been when I was about 11, so probably 1962. That’s the year Mrs Teague staged the Gilbert & Sullivan operetta “The Mikado” Nearly all of those in the picture had a role in the performance. I played Nanki Poo the wandering minstrel. Mrs Teague was a member of the Doyly Carte Opera Company, played piano  and had a fantastic singing voice.

The third picture must have been a fancy dress competition. I’m the cowboy.

Maureen Argyle (nee McConnell), who was at Eastwick from from Jan 59 to Jul 61, sent me these :

Back row: Anthony Rowley, Trevor Storey, ?, me, MT, Geraline Tucker, Julia Thorne, David Pody, ?
Front row: Isabel Finch, Alison Woods, Marilyn Underwood, Rosemary Hammett, Vera Bundy, Janet Hornby,  Janet Goodwin.

The Pirates of Penzance, with Mrs Teague in the middle.

Laurence Robinson – 1960-66 – sent me this :

The Swimming Team c. 1964

Mr Taylor, ? ? Graham Forbes ? ?, Gareth Moon, Laurence Robinson, Mrs Forbes, ? Joanna Woods, Elizabeth Dalgairns, Jaquie Russell-Bates, ? ?

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I received this from Penny Jeffcoat (n. Williams) :

Hi Kevan

I came across your ‘blog’ when searching for Mrs. Teague, who was our favourite teacher.  I hope this is of interest.

Kind regards

Penny

My twin sister and I (nee Sally and Penny Williams) attended Eastick either from 1959 – 61 or possibly 1962.  Like many children there, we had to sit the Eleven Plus.  

At the time, there were in fact 7 pairs of twins and this was featured in an Evening newspaper.  Sally is trying to find the photo that our mother kept all those years ago.  The twins included Sally and myself, Beverley and Margaret Abel, and Geraldine and Mary Scoble.

My earliest memory of the area was Southey House and we used to play there before it was demolished.

We were both in the tumbling team, along with David Pody, Trevor Storey and Anthony Rowley, but we can’t remember which year.  We definitely performed at the school fete and think we are in the photo of same [above] but it is rather blurred.

OTHER PHOTOS [above] :

We are the blonde twins sitting either side of the cupholder in photo submitted by Peter Bayfield.  

We are in the photo of the Pirates of Penzance (blonde twins sitting either side of the stage) and I was one of the three little maids in the Mikado; Sally was in the chorus.  The leads were Christopher Harris as the Emperor [or was it Michael Jones ?] and Beverley Abel as Yum-Yum. We remember Mrs Teague with great affection; she was a very warm, talented and inspirational teacher.  Would love to know if she is still alive.  

Games played at Eastwick Primary School in the 1960s

To all former Eastwick pupils :

Please read the pages under ‘Children’s Games’, and then – if anything comes to mind – please add to and/or comment on the list below via the ‘Leave a comment’ option at the end.  Thanks.

Do you remember any details of how we played these games ? Do you remember any other games/rhymes, etc. Please say if you don’t think we played a particular game or used a particular rhyme, etc :

Chasing games : Terms used for chaser – he or it (different terms are used in different parts of the country). You could also quickly say Baggsy not it !

Kiss chase
Line he – i.e. confined to the netball court lines painted on the playground
Ball he – i.e. throwing a ball to ‘catch’ the chased.
Off-ground he – i.e anywhere off the ground was ‘safe’
Chain he – each child caught then holds hand with catcher(s) to form a chain

– Was there a term and/or a gesture for stepping out of the game for a while so that you couldn’t be caught (e.g. while doing your shoe laces up) ?
– Was there a safe place where you could not be caught ?
– Could those who had been caught be released ?

Counting out – i.e. choosing who is to be it or he, etc :

Ibble obble black bobble
Ibble obble OUT !

One potater, two potater
Tree potater, four
Five potater, six potater
Seven potater, more
O U T spells OUT !

Eeny meeny miny mo . . . etc

Ip dip sky blue
Who’s it ?
Not YOU

– Counting out is often called dipping. Did we use that term ? Or some other ?

French skipping : like cats cradle, but with a long piece of elastic stretched between the ankles (then knees) of two players standing opposite each other a few feet apart. A third player has to jump over, catching the elastic with their feet, a number of times until the elastic is woven into a set pattern. Then they have to undo it by repeating their previous moves in reverse.

Hand-stands :
Get your knives and your forks and CUT IT !

Piggy-back fights : a boys game only I think.

Playing horses : two children grasp each others hands behind their backs and prance around pretending to be a pair of horses.

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Curdridge myth and legend – Kitty Nocks and the Curdridge Witch.

This is an article I wrote for the ‘Curdridge Parish News’ in 2013 :

For such a small village, Curdridge has a wealth of myth and legend.  Many of you will know the stories of Kitty Nocks and of the Curdridge Witch, although they are often confused together.  The following versions of these tales are taken from various sources, including the archives of the Botley and Curdridge Local History Society.   I am grateful to Dennis Stokes for making these available to me. 

Kitty Nocks.    

Kitty Nocks- or Nox – lived in a big house surrounded by a moat at the top of Kitnocks Hill, perhaps where the present Kitnocks House now stands.  She had a suitor of whom her father disapproved so their meetings had to be in secret.  One day she was found to be missing.  A search was made and her body was discovered drowned in the moat.  It seems she had been trying to join her lover to elope with him, although another version of the story has it that she drowned herself in a nearby pond after her lover abandoned her.

 It was after this event that the hill came to be known as Kitnocks Hill, but quite when the event took place no one knows.  However, since then her ghost is said to have haunted the top of the hill.  Her most recent reported appearance was in 1978 when a lad got off the number 53 bus at Kitnocks Hill and was scared half to death to find himself accompanied by a ghost as he ran home to Gordon Road!  

The Curdridge Witch.

As I mentioned above, there is often confusion between Kitty Nocks and the Curdridge Witch, who is sometimes known as Kate Nocks – or Nox – and it is said that Kitnocks Hill is named after her.  However, what seems most likely is that the Witch was an elderly woman called Kate Hunt who lived, sometime in the 17th century, on Mill Hill, or thereabouts, near Pinkmead and the road to Botley.  There are a number of stories told about her.

One day some trees were being cut down and fell across her garden, making her very angry.  The next day the trees were found lying in the opposite direction, across the road.  She was also said to have ridden to Bishops Waltham and back on a field gate.   A servant girl used to travel regularly by horse taking milk and eggs to Bishops Waltham.  On her way she would deliver a pat of butter to Kate Hunt.  However, when the Witch repeatedly failed to pay, the girl was instructed to stop delivering to her.  Kate Hunt became furious and declared that the girl would get to Bishops Waltham quicker than she had ever done before.  The horse then set off at a gallop and didn’t stop until it reached ‘Clark’s Shop’, where the frightened girl found all her eggs broken and mixed up with the butter.

It was also believed that the Witch could turn herself into an animal, most frequently a large white hare.  It was decided that she could not be allowed to live.  The hare was tracked down and shot with a silver bullet – the only way to kill a witch. Kate Hunt was afterwards found at her home mortally wounded and she then died. 

There is also a ghost story associated with the Witch.   A lady riding in a carriage with friends near where Kate Hunt used to live saw a woman wearing a red cloak, but no one else saw her and it was agreed that such a cloak was an unusual sight.  However, it seems that many years before it had indeed been common for elderly women to wear red cloaks.

 Confusions.

The confusions between these two characters are not just in relation to their names and to the origin of the name of Kitnocks Hill.  One story is that people used to visit the grave of the Witch Kate Knox in a churchyard nearby Kitnocks Hill to seek her advice.   They would go alone at midnight and intone her name three times and then listen for her reply.  It seems clear that this practice must in fact have related to Kitty Nocks the drowned girl and not to the Witch.

There is also confusion as to the identity of the gargoyle on St Peter’s Church tower which faces towards Kitnocks Hill and shows a woman – not obviously old – with her face displaying great distress.  Some say this is the Witch, but surely it was intended to be Kitty Nocks – unless of course those who designed the tower in the 1880s were also confused !

Kitty Noakes.

There is a third tale, not so well known, concerning Kitnocks Hill.  Commander Richard Phillimore, born and brought up at Shedfield House a couple of miles from Kitnocks Hill, told me the following brief story, learnt when he was a boy I think in the early 1900s :

There was a servant girl called Kitty Noakes.  One night, on her way home from work, she was murdered on the hill by a footpad [i.e. a mugger] and robbed of her wages.

I have not found this story written down anywhere before, but if you have heard it, or something like it, I would very much like to know.  Indeed, if you know any other versions of or additions to these stories please contact me so that I can add them to the store of Curdridge myth and legend for future generations of Curdridge folk to enjoy.

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Sources :

Winifred G., Christy, Elsa B., It happened in Hampshire,  Hampshire Federation of Women’s Institutes, Winchester, Fifth edition 1977,  p121  (This was first published in 1936).

Botley and Curdridge Local History Society archives, The Curdridge Witch (1693/1 – 3)and The Legend of Kitnocks (1693/4 – 5).  Taken from material collected by W S J Cooke.

“The Fairy Tale Has No Landlord”: On the Enchantments of Kitnocks Hill ( https://thegrammarofmatter.wordpress.com/the-enchantments-of-kitnocks-hill/ )

Moutray Read, D.H. 1911. Hampshire Folklore. Folklore Vol.22,No.3, p314.

Stevens, F.E. 1934. Hampshire Ways. London: Heath Cranton, p.51.

Summers, M. 1946. Witchcraft and Black Magic , London and New York: Rider and Co., p.192.

Kevan Bundell

kbundell@yahoo.co.uk      

 

You may  also like to listen to a song I wrote called Kitnocks Hill  which recounts the tales above :  track no. 8 (around the middle) from the album Bright Day :

 

 

 

 

Kitnocks – the origin of the name.

(This article appeared in the April 2014 edition of the Curdridge ‘Parish News’).

You may have seen my article ‘ Curdridge Myth and Legend – Kitty Nocks and the Curdridge Witch’ published in the March 2013 edition of the ‘Parish News’.  That article tried to sort out the common confusion between the two characters in question. 

This article is an attempt to go beyond the legends and explore the historical origin of the name Kitnocks.  So if you prefer myths and legends to historical ‘facts’, you should stop reading now !

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Kitnocks Hill is a significant feature of the village of Curdridge.  Local knowledge has it that the name of the place derives from Kitty Nocks,  a young girl who lived and was drowned on the hill while attempting to elope with her lover.  Exactly when she lived  is not known.  The alternative explanation is  that the name comes from the so-called Curdridge Witch, but this seems unlikely as her name was probably Kate Hunt and she seems to have lived elsewhere in the village, sometime in the Seventeenth Century.   Folklore recorders and writers appear to have confused the two characters.

Here is what we know  about the name Kitnocks from documents held in the Hampshire Records Office :

  •  In a document called ‘Customs of the Hundred of South (i.e. Bishops) Waltham’, dated 1259/60 there is mention of a Thomas Kutenok.  The implication is that Thomas was a tenant in the Hundred (an administrative area of land) [1]
  •  In the Rentals of Bishops Waltham for 1332, a Richard de Cutenok is listed as the tenant of a ‘1/2 virgate’ [a varying measure of land, typically 30 acres]. [2]
  • In the Rentals of Bishops Waltham for 1464, under the heading ‘COURDRYGGE’,  we read  : ‘a messuage [house] and 1/2 a virgate of bond land called Kotenokes, formerly Richard de Cuttenoke’‘Formerly‘ here means  that Richard was a previous tenant.  This is the first reference to the land itself being known by a name.  Elsewhere in this document  we find references to ‘the land of Kutenokes’ and ‘formerly Kuttenokes’.

The spelling is all over the place, but it is clearly the same name that is being referred to.   In fact the letters  ‘c’ and  ‘k’ are interchangeable in Anglo Saxon, and the vowels could vary too.

It seems clear that the name of the place that we have today has come down to us all the way from the name of the tenant family that held the land since at least  the Thirteenth Century. 

As for the name itself, a little research reveals that ‘Cutte’ means ‘son of Cuthbert’ in Anglo Saxon,  and  that ‘Knock’ or ‘Nock’   is a shortened version of the phrase ‘atten oak’  or ‘at the oak’  (just as the name Noakes is ‘at the oaks’ or  Nash is ‘at the ashes’).   On the other hand it could be ‘atten nock’ , at a hill or knoll.

Be all that as it may,  if you have read this far and still prefer the legend of Kitty Nocks or the Curdridge Witch, you must not of course be swayed by my research.  Especially if you are in need of advice.  According to one Folklorist’s account it was customary to visit ‘Kit Knox Hill’ at midnight and to circle Kit Knox’s  grave three times,  ‘Then listen for the answer . . . council and guidance will always be given.’   I assume this custom has now died out, but do let me know if you know differently. I will then be sure to let whoever moves into the new houses just built on the top of the hill know – and tell them not to worry.

Kevan Bundell

[1] Hampshire Records Office COPY/761/1

[2] 1332 & 1464  Rentals of Bishops Waltham Manors, Harold G Barstow, 1992.

Alan Glynne-Howell (1910 ? – 1989) – an appreciation.

   

I first encountered the formidable Mr Glynne-Howell at the too tender age of eleven as he attempted to teach us Latin.  In my case at least, he failed utterly.  In my first year final exam I was awarded a mark of three percent – one for writing ‘amo, amas, amat’, the other two for spelling my name correctly.

  He was a generous man.

 Mr Glynne-Howell was otherwise known to us as ‘Genghis’.  On the one hand this displayed our profound schoolboy ignorance, on the other it was unarguably appropriate.  He would bear down upon us, dark of gown and of physiognomy, take us by the cheek between finger and thumb, and shake us like rabbits; he would steady our face with one hand and slap us with the other, admonishing us to ‘Take it like a man’.  He would then extract his handkerchief from his pocket and fastidiously wipe his hands of our contamination.  This was not at all what we were used to, but we were far too young, and intimidated, to protest.

 And yet there was also humour.  ‘Don’t bray like an ass’ he would say as a victim struggled to translate some incomprehensible passage.  Or more particularly, to myself :   ‘Bundell, you are like an ape staring into space – you see everything, and comprehend – nothing.’

 He was right of course.

 Later on he also taught us ‘A’ Level Religious Studies, by which time we were  a good bit older, and he less intimidating.  Nonetheless, it was only many years later – after I had left school, after I had lived in India for a while, and after I was married to an Indian – that I came to some kind of an understanding of where Alan was coming from.

 He was coming from a world which no longer existed.  India gained its independence from the British Empire in 1947.  The Raj was finished.  Like many others of Anglo-Indian descent Alan, and his wife Tessa, were face with a decision as to where to build their future.  He had done well in an India ruled by the English language and its culture.  He had obtained both Bachelor’s and Master’s Degrees in English, from the Universities of Bombay and Benares respectively, and won a William Shakespeare Cup along the way.  He had trained as a teacher and then taught at the prestigious Church schools of Bishops High in Pune and the Cathedral School in Bombay.  He had taught the sons of Rajas, as well as the sons of other important members of the Hindu, Christian and Muslim communities.  But the world in which he had been brought up, and in which he had competed, was quickly fading – and England had always been referred to as home.

 In 1962 the Glynne-Howells decided, like other members of their family, to move to the UK.   Alan first taught at an independent girl’s school in St Ives, Cambridgeshire.  One wonders what the girls made of him – and he of them.  Presumably he did not require them to ‘Take it like a man’.   In 1965 he joined Price’s Grammar School for Boys in Fareham, Hampshire.  It was a rather traditional establishment, with something of the English public school about it, and was led by a Headmaster, Mr E.A.B. Poyner, of firm Christian convictions.  These characteristics would no doubt have helped Alan feel at home.

 However, this was the nineteen sixties and England, like India, had also changed, and was changing still.  At Price’s Alan was largely put to teaching Latin, obligatory in the first year, but never a greatly popular choice thereafter, and Religious Studies – of which he was Head – but again a minority pursuit beyond the statutory one class a week.   Meanwhile he was denied the opportunity of teaching his beloved English Literature.  I believe this may have been at least partly owing to a perception that Alan’s approach to the subject was rather old fashioned.  And so it no doubt was.  Yet Alan’s old fashioned erudition and use of the English language were glorious, and I for one have never recovered from them.

At the same time, outside of school, Alan suffered on occasions the prejudice and name-calling that those ‘of a dusky hue’, as Alan put it, had to endure in a provincial town at a time when non-white faces were not at all common.  This must have been particularly unpleasant for a man of Alan’s background and sensibilities.

 Another thing I understood from living in India was that Alan’s assaults upon our eleven year old cheeks were not in fact acts of aggression but rather of affection.  In India grown-ups commonly pinch the cheeks of children or give them a gentle slap while admonishing them for some minor misdemeanour, or indeed for none at all.  And the children grin back at them.

 And yet, as I recall, Alan was always rather serious about it.  He was fearsome of aspect (as he would have put it), and, often, it hurt.

 In fact, he was conflicted.  We were his pupils and therefore dear to him.  But we were also an ignorant and rather ordinary bunch of boys, from very middle or working class backgrounds.

  And above all, we were unwashed.

 Alan’s fastidious wiping of his hands after every contact was not merely a performance.  It was also a comment upon and a criticism of our personal washing habits.  No doubt small boys everywhere are among the least fragrant members of society.  However, Alan was also possessed of a particularly sensitive nose.  In India his pupils would have routinely bathed every morning.  In England in the 1960’s, before the general arrival of domestic showers, a bath once a week was more the norm.  Of course we were also obliged to take showers at school after PE and Games, but it was amazing how quickly boys could rush in and out of the shower room, and then climb back into clothes which had probably already been worn for the best part of a week.

 At some point in 1967 or ’68 Alan fell ill and was away from work for a term or more.  When he returned we were all shocked to see that his formerly coal black hair had turned quite white.  Unfortunately his health was never of the best in his later years, especially after he retired in 1975.

 Shortly before he retired Price’s became a sixth form college and there were not only boys about but also girls.  This gave rise to new opportunities for Alan to express himself in his characteristic and inimitable style.  Tony Johnson, then Head of English, tells the following tale :

 “A phrase that passed into the folk memory of staff at Price’s
College was his. Rounding a corner on his way to the staff room, he
reported to us that he had just seen two students in “amorous
juxtaposition”. Even to this day you have only to mention that
phrase to bring laughter to old colleagues who have met for lunch.”

It was my brother Ivor – also a pupil of Alan’s – who first began to visit Alan at home, and then I joined him.  This was when we first met Tessa.  By this time Alan had clearly forgotten, or chose to ignore, my achievements in his Latin class.   His conversation was always riddled with sage – I assume – remarks, quotes, and aphorisms in Latin.  Sometimes he would translate, but often-times he would not.  Fortunately there was more than enough of the same in English to give me some chance of joining in the conversation.

 Later on my wife and I visited, usually for afternoon tea, sometimes with our children.  Alan and Tessa would also come to tea with us.  I remember an occasion we visited when both Alan and Tessa were, by then, less nimble than they had once been.  My wife, in very Indian fashion, soon took over the serving of the food and tea and Alan and Tessa were obliged to be waited upon, as befitted their age and status.  Alan was flustered and embarrassed at being looked after in such a way in his own house, but at the same time I felt he was also moved by the touch of his old home and culture.

 Alan passed away at the very end of December 1989.  His memorial service was conducted by another of his former Price’s pupils, Peter Hancock.   We continued to have Tessa round for tea until she passed away in 2013.  In any case Alan is still often mentioned and in our minds.   It was a very special experience –  in a variety of ways –  to have had Alan as a teacher.  Although I understood, if not quite nothing, only a limited amount of what he might have taught me, it was a gift to have known him.

 Kevan Bundell
(Price’s 1966 – 73)

Revised Version (so to speak) Feb. 2014

The original posting of this Appreciation can be found on the web site of the Society of Old Priceans at : http://www.societyofoldpriceans.co.uk/Alan_Glynne-Howell.htm

A further appreciation of Allan Glynne-Howell, written in response to my Appreciation (which you should read first), by my fellow former Pricean and classmate, Michael Daysh.

 AGH was one of very few teachers for whom I had great respect. He was a pearl before a load of swines, and I wonder what made such a man want to teach us. Not that I am complaining, but you would have thought that he would have taught in a posh school, where his classical talents would have been appreciated.

 I do give him a thought occasionally, because he was influential and had my respect. I would just tell you a few things I recall:

 Blood red ink in his fountain pen, which he used to write in a masterful, flowing sort of a way. It was a bit like he was painting with his pen. His signature influenced mine, because he always put two dots under his name. Somehow the two dots conveyed authority. My dots have become a line, but with the same intention.

 I took to Latin myself, and failed O level only because the criminally incompetent *****  took over. He (A G-H) was a good Latin teacher, and it’s now part of my kids’ “take the piss out of father” routine to imitate me explaining the meaning of an English word by reference to the Latin derivation. It helped greatly with French and Spanish too. That is in fact Allan’s lasting legacy to me.

 He did teach English at some point. I definitely know he taught me (and therefore you, I assume) because I recall him managing to make Shakespeare quite interesting. Maybe he was just standing in.

 He was one of the few teachers who always wore his gown, and he would have looked better swaying through the cloisters of some ancient public school, rather than the smelly corridors of Price’s. It was part of his public persona, and added to his considerable gravitas. I now realise that the best teachers are great actors, but it works: We would never have mucked around with him like we did with ******, for example.

 The horrible day when somebody had written “Genghis” on the blackboard. He walked in and walked straight out again. I am sure that he took it as a racist insult, and I am sure that it was meant as such. ****** took the blame, but I don’t think it was him at all. I don’t know who it was. I do know that most of us were shocked both by the racism (although we did naively use abusive terminology, I must admit) and by AGH’s reaction. We just didn’t understand about any of that in our 99.9999% white middle class world.

His very Indian way of leaving a long gap before the end of a sentence. I’ll mimic it next time I ……….. see you. It is a good teaching technique. My lecturer at college did the same. It makes you think about how the sentence should …….. end.

 I am glad that others remember him fondly. I always say you only die when you’re forgotten, so he’s got a good few years left!

 Michael Daysh.

Feb 2011.

 

Tessa Glynne-Howell

Tessa passed away on the  31st  August 2013 at the age of 100.  My brother Ivor and I were not aware of her passing until some months afterwards.  This is the message we then sent to her family :

Ivor and I were pupils of Alan’s at Price’s School. We met Tess only after our school days, when we began to visit Alan following his retirement. After Alan’s death we continued to see Tess: she came to our children’s birthday parties; we invited her for Sunday tea, happily ferrying her from Fareham and back; and we arranged to drop in on her at ‘Everest’ whenever we could. She was always wonderfully positive despite the difficulties of her old age. We saw her last in the Spring. My mother and I went round for ‘elevenses’. Tess was rather deaf by then of course and the conversation was occasionally rather odd as a result, though she had always been quite adept at ‘secretly’ lip reading. However, it was, as always, a pleasure to be with her. We remember her with much love and affection and as one of our special honorary Aunts.

Royton, Lancs, 1950s.

The following games were recalled by my sister-in-law Elaine Bundell (née Vacher). She was born in 1952 and lived as a child in Royton, near Oldham, in the general vicinity of Manchester, in what was then part of the county of Lancashire, in the North of England.

1.

Ping pong pee and the P C lantern
My black cat can play the pianer
He can play for two and a tanner
Kerb or the red brick wall ?

“This was a “choosing” rhyme for a running race game.  The children wanting to be chosen stood  in a line with both hands held out, palm up. The “chooser” went along the line tapping each hand in turn.  The child whose hand was tapped at the end of the rhyme on the word “wall” was the challenger and could choose either the kerb or the wall.  (I played this game in the playground at Byron Street Junior School in Royton.  I seem to remember there was an undercover area with a kerb to step up into it and a brick wall at the back.)  If the challenger chose the kerb then she (again, it was usually a girl) ran to the kerb from a chosen line some distance away, back to the line then to the wall and back to the line again.  Meanwhile the chooser ran to the wall first then to the kerb.  The winner was the person back to the line the second time.  I don’t remember whether the winner became the chooser or if the challenger became the chooser.  Even if there were only two people playing, the formality of the rhyming and hand tapping took place.”

This is the game which the Opies[1] call kerb or wall, preceded by a counting out or choosing method commonly used to begin this game. They give the following example of the game’s rhyme:

Bim, bam, boo, and a wheezy anna
My black cat can play the piano
One, two, three, kick him up a tree
Kerb or wall ?

This was reported from Stockport, which is not far from Manchester and Royton. Both rhymes are noticeably nonsensical, especially their first lines, which leads the Opies to add the following disparaging note to their example : `Versions in various stages of decomposition throughout the north country’. It is not clear, however, what the more composed original might have been.

2.

Nebuchadnezzar, King of the Jews
Bought his wife a pair of shoes
When the shoes began to wear
Nebuchadnezzar began to swear
When the swear began to stop
Nebuchadnezzar bought a shop
When the shop began to sell
Nebuchadnezzar bought a bell
When the bell began to ring
Nebuchadnezzar began to sing
Doh ray me far so la ti doh !

“A rhyme for doing “two-ball”.  Bouncing two balls alternately against a wall underhand.  On each rhyming word, doing a different action, eg throwing one ball overhand, bouncing one ball on the ground before hitting the wall (I seem to remember this was called for some reason “tobogganing”), throwing under the leg against the wall and, the hardest of all, behind the back.  Each action lasted for the complete rhyme, saying the rhyme again and doing the next action until the ball was dropped then it was the turn of the next girl (I don’t  remember boys ever playing two-ball).  I also think that when reciting the “doh ray me”  the action was done on every word.”

Steve Roud[2] reproduces the same rhyme, word for word, reported from Kent in the 1940s, also used for games involving the bouncing of balls.

Elaine remembers another rhyme used for playing two-ball:

Lady, baby, gypsy, queen,
Elephant, monkey, tangerine.

“I think it was simply a case of throwing the balls against the wall and doing a different action on the rhyming words.”

Such ball- bouncing games, says Roud, were exclusively girl’s games. They were also `immensely popular’ – which makes it all the more striking that they `seem nowadays to have disappeared’.

3.

Alabalabusha
Who’s got the ball ?
See I haven’t got it
It isn’t in my pocket
Ala-balabusha
Who’s got the ball ?

“This was a ball game where someone threw a small ball over their shoulder to a group of waiting children.  Whoever grabbed or caught the ball put it behind their back.  Everyone then stood in line with their hands behind their backs saying the rhyme and showing each hand in turn.  At the start of the rhyme the thrower turned round and watched the action then at the end of the rhyme had to pick out the child who had the ball.  If they guessed right then they had another go and if not then the person with the ball became the thrower.  (I remember playing this at the Mission Infants School in Royton and the first thrower was often one of the dinner ladies.)”

This is a version of the game Queenie. ‘Queenie is the perpetual delight of little girls aged eight and nine’ write the Opies. The commonest version of the rhyme begins ‘Queenie, queenie’ but the Opies note that` in Scotland and North-east England’ the rhyme begins instead with` Alabala’. They do not specifically give any example from the Manchester area .

`Alabala’ (also, ‘Ali baba’ and ‘Ala wala’) also occurs in examples of what the Opies call Chinese Counting, so-called not only because a Chinaman often appears, but also – perhaps more so – because the rhymes are made up of nonsense. Elaine remembered this one :

Ah-ra chickara
Chickara rooney
Rooney poony
Ping pong piney
Ala- bala-basta
Chinese Sam

“This may have been a choosing rhyme but I remember girls just walking around arm-in-arm chanting the rhyme.”

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  1. “Children’s Games in Street and Playground“, Iona and Peter Opie, 1969.
  2. The Lore of the Playground: One hundred years of children’s games, rhymes and traditions, Steve Roud, Random House, London, 2010.

Amy Rosa Rogers (Mrs Rogers)

Mrs Rogers was my class teacher for two years, 1961/62 and 1962/63,  my second and third years at Eastwick school.  I remember her with great affection.  I met her again when she was a hundred years old and had just received a telegram from the Queen.  She was delighted to read my News Book – a daily diary –  from my years in her class and to see her red ink corrections of my atrocious spellings.

Here is an appreciation of Mrs Rogers written by her son Peter at my request :

My mother, Amy Rosa Rogers (nee Laskey) was the eldest of four sisters, and was born in Twyford, Berkshire on 27th September 1899.  She died in Dorset on 5th July 2002. Thus her life spanned 2 millenia, 3 Centuries and 6 Monarchs.

She and her parents moved to Canterbury in Kent soon after she was born, where her father established a market garden. In March 1912 her mother died of TB, and consequently she acted as ‘mother’ to her three younger sisters, and also ran the kitchen in the household. In the following year, 1913, the second eldest also succumbed to TB leaving her to look after the two youngest sisters. By the time The Great War started she was already half way through her Secondary schooling. She excelled at school, was very musical and developed into an accomplished pianist. She became Head Girl and stayed on during the last year of the War when staff were scarce, and took some of the singing classes. She left school in the autumn of 1918, and went to Goldsmiths College London, and particularly remembered the celebrations of the Armistice in the November that year.

After four years at University, she started her teaching career in Kent in 1922, and two years later her father died, again of TB. In June 1928 she married Victor Rogers, and in the autumn moved to Oxted in Surrey where they set up home. In early 1929 her youngest sister died of TB, and in 1930 her eldest son Michael was born. They then moved to Leatherhead in Surrey where in 1933 her younger son Peter was born. In 1937 she returned to teaching to do some supply work at the local Secondary school, and became accompanist for Leatherhead Choral Society. When War broke out in September 1939, she returned to full time teaching at All Saints Primary school in Leatherhead. The school population increased dramatically as evacuee children from London were billeted in the area. All Saints Hall adjacent to the school was used as an overspill, and she and one other teacher, each had a class of sixty children in the Hall – the classes were just divided by a curtain!

After the War ended, she reverted to part time teaching, and the family moved to Great Bookham in 1947. Just before Christmas 1947 her remaining sister died of TB, so she was her families’ sole survivor of this scourge. Apart from part time work, she led a full life within the community in these immediate Post War years, and continued to play for the Leatherhead Choral Society although she now lived in Bookham. She learnt to drive and had her own car, and after her husband died in 1960 she returned to full time teaching at Eastwick Primary school in the village, and continued there until July 1969, just 2 months before her 70th Birthday. At this stage, it was no surprise that Surrey County Education Committee confirmed that she was the oldest teacher on their books!

By this time she had six grandchildren, and loved to see them and hear about their latest exploits. Then in 1976, she moved for the last time, and “retired” to a bungalow Verwood in Dorset. She again led a very active life for many years, taking up both pottery and painting again, and playing the piano accompanying two string players. In 1999 she celebrated her 100th Birthday with the family, which by then included two great grandchildren, and she was very proud to show everyone her birthday card from the Queen! She continued to enjoy a very full life in her bungalow for a further 2 years and only went into care for the last 6 months of her very full life.

Peter Rogers

April 2015